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Old 11-09-2021, 07:54 PM   #771 (permalink)
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A evergreen tree is engulfing the tongue of my trailer. If I'd known then what I know now....

It has a needle season, blossom season, pinecone season and pitch.

Looking at that last pic, there is a retaining wall and steps. Which way do the flash floods flow?

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Old 11-09-2021, 09:55 PM   #772 (permalink)
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I like the idea of building my own home, but I would definitely need to improve my skill level first!

I tried to find a large shed kit. Sure, I have done this plenty of times before, but I expect this to change periodically.

Also, I don't remember anything!

Once I started looking I figured that I would want something with a garage, maybe with apartment in the second story or something up there!

So then I was trying to find kits. Home Depot has a 3-car garage kit, but the roof is pretty flat.

Strangely, they don't seem to have 2-car kits.

This is the largest shed kit I found on Wayfair: 14 ft. W x 32 ft. D Solid and Manufactured Wood Storage Shed for $15,700. 448 square feet and it annoys me to have a high roof, but not high enough for a second story.

Let's come back to that.

I happened to see this: Arrow Murryhill 14 x 31 Garage, Steel Storage Building, Prefab Storage Shed for $4,600:

One foot shorter and $10,100 less?!

Insulating it would be a pain. I would need to put in studs to hold the fiberglass, although I could always pay someone to spray.

Allegedly this 30×40 Vertical Roof Garage is $13,530 delivered and installed--before up to a 10% Black Friday discount.

This site shows a 36x48 steel building with 2 garage doors for $26,659

I know I looked into this before. I specifically remember Barndominium, but I don't remember being impressed.

In unrelated news, Lowe's shows this Gazebo Penguin 18-ft x 20-ft x 9.92-ft Clear Metal 2-Car Carport, which sure looks like a car greenhouse!

I keep thinking that I should wait until I have seen those additional clients for a while...
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You seem to have most of the skills to DIY a house build so you'd be saving the labor and profit of the builder, or about 1/2. .. Would it ever get finished enough to live in? Aye, there's the rub.
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I searched for "Metal garages 85901" and found this 30x40 2-car garage for $13,530, allegedly with free delivery and installation, but do you believe advertising? https://garagebuildings.com/specials

I finally found this 1,215-square-foot metal house kit $72,000 with a 2-car garage: https://www.budgethomekits.com/plans/dakota

However, they don't offer financing, so while I could buy the tiny house, I don't have any idea how I could buy the house kit!

For some reason their FAQ link doesn't link to the FAQ. I found it with Google: https://www.budgethomekits.com/faqs

One of the last questions is "Do you provide financing?" Of course, they use many words to say "No," but they can't just come out and say the thing that makes them look bad!

"Anecdotally, our customers have used conventional as well as non-conventional means to acquire their loans, a few of which are shown below:"
  1. Put up a piece of property as collateral for a loan to purchase the kit. After assembling the complete steel kit, a restructured loan which includes the land as well as the erected home should more than finance the interior build-out.
  2. If possible, purchase the kit with available funds and erect the kit. With your home’s exterior erected, it should be easier to acquire a loan to be used to finish the interior.
  3. Look into getting an unsecured loan for the kit. This could be a signature loan from your local lender or even a personal loan from a friend or family member.
  4. Rob a bank!
  5. Sell various organs!
  6. Collect cans!
  7. Get a side hustle!
  8. Win the lottery!
  9. Start a cult!
  10. Have you tried not being poor?!
  11. Marry an ugly rich person!
  12. Get off your butt and stop being lazy!
  13. Buy a million bags of flour for $1 each and sell them for $2 each!
So, #1 requires already having property, which you probably need to build a home, but wouldn't you need equity in it?
#2 is just "Save up!"
Does anyone know any loan sharks in Show Low for #3?

I may have made up the rest, but they aren't necessarily less helpful.

If I bought the tiny house I might be able to save up enough to pay for a kit--except inflation would make short work of my savings.

If I bought the tiny house and invested everything I could into Vanguard I should have enough in a decade or two, which brings me back to seeing these new clients with the new agency and waiting to do things boringly--conventionally--except is it too late to mention this mobile home?

2-bedroom, 1-bath 660-square-feet mobile home for $90,000

I think it is cute--except the kitchen. It looks like there are 3 different styles of cabinets!

It is much newer than everything else, and actually looks cute, but for some reason it is also cash or owner may carry.
The lot is kind of small. It seems to come with 2 sheds and the one in the back could be replaced with a larger one, but I don't know where you could put something like a garage except in the driveway.
So, it is weird, it is 1/3 larger for 1/8th more, is in-town, and is vastly nicer, but the lot is smaller, and I couldn't do nearly as much with it!

Zillow estimates it would cost $426 a month to live here, not counting utilities, and I would definitely need utilities! I could move all of my stuff here, remodel my room, move my brother and his essentials into my remodeled room, put everything else in the garage temporarily, and remodel his room.

There is no hope for Mom's room, she just has too much junk!

Do you think I could fit the couch through my doorway?

Honestly, while Mom was gone I spent all day cleaning the living room carpet, which they replaced then they bought the house.

The rest of the carpet is original.

They bought extra-thick carpet for the living room, in case Mom fell, and she has.

I think that it looked pretty good after pushing around the carpet cleaner for 90 minutes, but another rental would do it good.

However, if I set up a small television room in here I could patch the drywall and repaint the living room!

Huh!
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#4 though #11 are on topic.
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I like the idea of building my own home, but I would definitely need to improve my skill level first!
Choose the skill set carefully.

Cork-clad home uses thermal wall & circular vents as free A/C

Concrete slab on grade with a polished finish, aerated concrete block walls, 5 cm of expanded cork slabs for the exterior. Trombe walls and a tiny wood stove, cork-enthused architect.

You can do it.
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Concrete slab on grade, ICF lego block foam walls with high strength foamed concrete, DIY with a rebar wire twister, glue gun and an electric turkey ciutter knife. Supposedly any 5+year old can assemble. Add drop in place plywood foam sandwich structural roof done in a week. Interior and plumbing would take the.most time.

Cork on the outside, well, OK. Sprayed on 6 mill thick acrylic latex over aforementioned foam legoblock is cheaper, faster and stronger and accepts glue on facings
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"Add drop in place plywood foam sandwich structural roof dome in a week."
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"Add drop in place plywood foam sandwich structural roof dome in a week."
I suppose so but non 90 degree corners in ICF is time consuming
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I could put a dome (1V, edge zenith) over a rectangular foundation. The only limitation would be the Golden Rectangle proportion.

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