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Old 11-13-2010, 02:05 PM   #141 (permalink)
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That favstocks "counter point" suck.
...true GM didn't make the comparison, but there's "truth" in what he says nevertheless.

...which, (agreeing with you), makes the Cruze Eco and the Prius different "birds" of similar feathers (pun intended)--one suited for predominately 'city' usage and the other better suited for predominately 'highway' usage.

...summary: Prius = city and Cruze Eco = highway.

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Old 11-14-2010, 01:04 PM   #142 (permalink)
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This is a cross-post of this :

http://ecomodder.com/forum/204000-post149.html

What's interesting is that the Cruze Eco is "new EPA MPG" figures. Here is the 2003 Honda Civic HX manual :



When I "back extrapolate" the new MPG to the old MPG (yellow background numbers), the Cruze compares favorably to the Honda Civic HX :



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...here's something gleened from the EPA window-sticker on our 2011 Cruze LTZ:

• Expected range for most drivers (highway) 29-(36)-43 mpg.
• Expected range for most drivers ( city ) 19-(24)-29 mpg.
• Combined Fuel economy (55% city/45% highway) 28 mpg.

...that breaks down as:

• Highway = 36±7 mpg...so, roughly, Sigma = 2.45 mpg(H)
• City = 24±5 mpg.........so, roughly, Sigma = 1.67 mpg(C)

...and, remember, those numbers are for the 6-speed automatic; only the lowest model (LT) and the Eco have manual transmissions available.

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Old 11-14-2010, 05:50 PM   #144 (permalink)
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and, remember, those numbers are for the 6-speed automatic; only the lowest model (LT) and the Eco have manual transmissions available.

Any you don't want the LT with the 1.8 L.
Timing belt instead of timing chain that needs to be replaced at 100k miles.
I'm hearing from yourcobalt.com Cruze section that it's $1,200 to get the belt replaced.

Engine damage possible if the belt breaks.

I'm thinking the only reason that they don't have a 6 speed manual on the 1.4T is cause it would get better mpg ratings, then they couldn't as easily charge an extra $2,500 for the Eco version.
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Old 11-14-2010, 05:58 PM   #145 (permalink)
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...actually, the 6-speed manual (RPO code: M32) is what's standard on both the LT and the Eco models, although with slightly different gearings. The 6-speed automatic is (now) optional on both.

...the 5-speed manual seems to be standard elsewhere in europe and asia, especially on the diesel model Cruze, which we don't get.
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...the 5-speed manual seems to be standard elsewhere in europe and asia, especially on the diesel model Cruze, which we don't get.
...and I want.
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...agreed, a 6-speed diesel Eco would be GREAT!
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The local Chevy dealer in Mt Sterling Kentucky has one Cruise on display, I am un-sure if it is for sell or looks right now. I asked the sales lady why is it reports online report an EPA of 40 to 42 MPg (I more often read 40 MPG) yet the sticker says 35mpg, and quick as a whip she says :" Have you looked under that hood at that 2.8 engine?" The sticker claimed 35 MPG- a big disappointment for me UNTIL I realize this was actually a FAST car and it might of even been one of the turbo charged models. But I still rather see an epa of 40 to 42 MPG, but it seems ALL of the GM dealers in this state stock POWER cars and trucks- I could not locate a single XFE Cobalt in this state in 2009 and thus I had to have my favorite dealer order me an XFE from another state, and that dealer had like another $2,000 cash back because it had sat on their lot for ten months. People in my neck of the woods always think power before fuel economy. I bet when GM starts cranking out all of their XFE like Cruise cars that still no dealer will stock them here. I feel like a fish out of water in this state in many ways.
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Thanks for the URL. I like to look for the "hidden" grill blocks on new car grills :



It looks like it's not symmetrical to me. It's a little more open to the lower-right of the Chevy badge. Makes me want to look under the hood to see if there is a clue in the engine layout. The grill above the Chevy badge looks open to me as well.

Volt and Cruze comparison shot :




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On the first and only Cruise I have seen that Bow Tie on The Cruise's Grill is VERY LARGE!
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On the first and only Cruise I have seen that Bow Tie on The Cruise's Grill is VERY LARGE!
...yes it is, 4Ľ" by 9Ľ", to be exact!


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