05-28-2015, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by elhigh
There's nothing stopping you from looking up other Altimas in the Ecomodder garage pages, but since you asked:
2005 Nissan Altima SE Gas Mileage (Slowest. Altima. Ever.) - EcoModder.com
His best results are getting into hybrid territory. I checked; his is also a V6. His techniques and the two modest modifications have been thoroughly tested by many others in these pages.
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Elhigh, The comparison you chose is not close. He has manual trans. vs. auto. Dangerous high tire pressure, has engine modifications, drives slow etc. I don't do anything but turn the key drive.after all that he has readings in the high thirties. I drive up 90 mph ( sometimes). I use cruise on flats and foot pedal on up and down highways. Cruise does not work efficiently on hills.
If you read the whole thread I have stated that I think the magnets help the fuel burn more efficiently and therefore the ecu can run at a more efficient setting i don't think the fuel is by itself increasing the mileage.
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05-29-2015, 09:43 AM
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Elhigh, The comparison you chose is not close. He has manual trans. vs. auto. Dangerous high tire pressure, has engine modifications, drives slow etc. I don't do anything but turn the key drive.after all that he has readings in the high thirties. I drive up 90 mph ( sometimes). I use cruise on flats and foot pedal on up and down highways. Cruise does not work efficiently on hills.
If you read the whole thread I have stated that I think the magnets help the fuel burn more efficiently and therefore the ecu can run at a more efficient setting i don't think the fuel is by itself increasing the mileage.
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If I read the whole thread I will waste an incredible amount of time reading about snake oil and your claims regarding snake oil. I don't want to do that unless I can know there will be hard data somewhere to pry the claims loose from the snake oil category. There's a reason your thread is in the Unicorn Corral.
Looking at the EPA ratings for the '05 manual V6 Altima, I see it is rated at either 25 or 26mpg highway. I'm not sure what the differentiation is between the two that there would be different ratings, but there it is. The '06 automatic V6 Altima is rated for 27mpg highway. So while you say that it isn't a good comparison due to equipment differences, your case is further undermined by the fact that your car should be doing BETTER, not worse. All the V6 automatic Altimas I looked at are, in fact, rated for higher highway fuel economy than the manual models.
Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude. I made a perfectly reasonable statement that the best thing you could do would be to provide, in as clear a manner as possible, hard data that had been collected via controlled, repeatable testing. Your response, however, is to tell me how the comparison I offered isn't really valid (and really it isn't, your car has an advantage), how your numbers are skewed downward by behavior, etc. Your modifications may or may not make a measurable difference, but claims without data are just hype.
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05-29-2015, 12:14 PM
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....... I made a perfectly reasonable statement that the best thing you could do would be to provide, in as clear a manner as possible, hard data that had been collected via controlled, repeatable testing. Your response, however, is to tell me how the comparison I offered isn't really valid (and really it isn't, your car has an advantage), how your numbers are skewed downward by behavior, etc. Your modifications may or may not make a measurable difference, but claims without data are just hype.
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this is so true to what I've read about magnets and most things "unicorn" material.
it's almost sickening to a point.
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05-29-2015, 01:18 PM
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It's a lot like religion, except I don't mind statements of faith vis-a-vis religion. Here in the real world however, making claims about something, we can ask for and reasonably expect verifiable facts.
No facts, no faith.
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05-30-2015, 12:26 AM
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I do admire you for setting what has to be a popularity record for a thread about nothing, with 6x,xxx views over 6 years.
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Threads about magnets do tend to attract a lot of interest...
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05-31-2015, 10:34 AM
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Threads about magnets do tend to attract a lot of interest...
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Ba-dum-bump! Thanks folks! Remember your waitress!
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05-31-2015, 02:14 PM
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I say 500 miles because when using the magnets the fuel burns more efficiently and actually cleans out injectors and removes carbon deposits. The will take some time to remove these. I can say when I changed the oil on the car it was black from carbon and I accidently got my hand in the way of the oil coming out and I felt chunks of carbon in the oil. Now the oil stays clean and golden.
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I stoped reading after this. No way that that is possible. So byby truth. Welcome unicorn!
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06-01-2015, 12:41 PM
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Don't be so dismissive about magnets. I have used them and experienced unbelievable results.
Last winter my deer blind was destroyed by heavy snow fall. The support rods broke and punctured the outer blind material leaving me with a pile of junk. I realized the blind had some useful pieces left in it. I removed all the unbroken poles and remembered all the magnetic window closures. I began cutting them out and when I had finished I had a stack of magnets. The magnets are 1/4 inch across and are really powerful. I devised a plan to reduce the flow of fuel through a fuel injected engine or a carb either one using my simple magnets. I stacked the magnets and scientifically placed them under my gas pedal. They adhered to the metal shaft that supports the pedal and when depressed would limit pedal travel thereby reducing fuel flow. The gains were significant and repeatable. I soon crafted different performance modes...20 magnets for normal operation, 30 magnets for valet mode, no magnet mode was for track use only. If you want to experience huge economy gains with magnets....simply follow my lead...because I have done it.
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06-01-2015, 06:22 PM
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great story! i used magnets this week when i had bugs on the windsscreen. pushed a button and a pump squirted fluid to remove them.
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06-02-2015, 09:49 AM
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great story! i used magnets this week when i had bugs on the windsscreen. pushed a button and a pump squirted fluid to remove them.
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I had a problem with organizing my bills, I used magnets and now I can't see my refrigerator!
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