The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[freebeard]

Why no fifth color (white) in the key?

A libertarian technocracy is not possible?

[redpoint5]

Conspiracy. Those in white are already creating superhumans.

I'm sympathetic to the role of government keeping a loose hand on people to avoid permanent catastrophe from something that otherwise is a temporary problem. I'm also sympathetic towards the need for government to look after the commons. This goes against extreme libertarianism.

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Wait, so the worst nuclear disaster in history left a place so dangerous that people just walk around like normal and install solar?

The anti-nuke crowd has very unconvincing reasons for being anti-nuke. Nuclear weapon proliferation... North Korea, among the most difficult places to develop nuclear weapons, already has it. Proliferation will occur independently of nuclear power.

Almost all of the fallout has been washed away by the weather, if not for deliberate cleaning up. Radiation levels are now low enough to be not significantly harmful in most places. Geiger tellers remain mandatory though.

I don't think this project is a showcase for the safety of nuclear energy.
Of course most powerplants are much safer than Chernobyl was, yet Belgium had to shut down yet another nuclear reactor due to construction faults - in the last case reinforced concrete was only reinforced on the drawings, not in reality.

[All Darc]

Washed???
I wouldn't be so optmist. If I remamber well about a documentary, the dust it's radiactive for thousand yeras and more. The dust penetrated the soil, got deeér, leaving surface less radioactive today than 25 yeras ago, but it can create another problem, like reach water layers (water tablers).

Originally Posted by RedDevil

Almost all of the fallout has been washed away by the weather, if not for deliberate cleaning up. Radiation levels are now low enough to be not significantly harmful in most places. Geiger tellers remain mandatory though.

I don't think this project is a showcase for the safety of nuclear energy.
Of course most powerplants are much safer than Chernobyl was, yet Belgium had to shut down yet another nuclear reactor due to construction faults - in the last case reinforced concrete was only reinforced on the drawings, not in reality.

[All Darc]

Governs wants super genius here and there to create super waeapons. But for overal population... Maybe to overal population they just want dumb people since such kinds are easier to manipulate.

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Conspiracy. Those in white are already creating superhumans.

I'm sympathetic to the role of government keeping a loose hand on people to avoid permanent catastrophe from something that otherwise is a temporary problem. I'm also sympathetic towards the need for government to look after the commons. This goes against extreme libertarianism.

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by All Darc

Washed???
I wouldn't be so optmist. If I remamber well about a documentary, the dust it's radiactive for thousand yeras and more. The dust penetrated the soil, got deeér, leaving surface less radioactive today than 25 yeras ago, but it can create another problem, like reach water layers (water tablers).

True. The point is that radioactive levels have dwindled down to a survivable level. Wildlife flourishes, even if the remaining radiation causes more diseases than average. But don't dig in the soil or the meters go berzerk.

[Xist]

Imagine needing lungs. You could try to find donors to avoid waiting the rest of your life (or longer), but you impatiently request sperm and egg donors. People in lab coats cultivate stem cells and before long you are good to go.

You know, if we wanted to keep nuclear weapons out of places like North Korea and Iraq would could offer to trade Thorium reactors for whatever they have developed.

[sendler]

Organ farms for the rich full of kindergarten clones.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island_(2005_film)
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[Xist]

There was a plot twist for everyone who won a trip to The Island.

[redpoint5]

The solution to pollution is dilution.

Only the Russians could have caused the worst nuclear disaster in the world, and even with them trying as hard as possible to create a catastrophe, it's still tame compared to all the life lost with other sources of energy. They won't make the same mistake again, either.

We'll be growing individual organs in the near future, custom programmed with our own DNA so there is no need for anti-rejection/immunosuppression drugs. I like dystopian movies that take technology concepts to an absurd end, but absurdity never happens. Black Mirror was phenomenally entertaining.

I like the concept of growing meat, rather than the whole animal. Seems it holds potential to be humane, and lower energy and space requirements. We're just coming out of the caveman period of genetic understanding, so there is tons of what I consider to be low-hanging fruit in leveraging gene technology.