The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[niky]

NIPCC? The Heartland Institute hacks have created their OWN international organization?

WAHAHAHAHA!!!

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I needed a good laugh today.

Originally Posted by freebeard

I don't know where but I can confirm the story, I read it too.

So you're saying Douglas Adams ripped off Al Capp's Schmoon?

It's possible Adams knew about them, but the cow is more likely a dig at vegans.

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Uncomfortably, I call my firstborn Shmoo.

Originally Posted by Xist

I remember an old sci fi story where there was a giant blob of meat that could be sliced off as necessary. The caretaker called it Chicken Little or something and showed the main character that it could do a trick. He blew a whistle, Chicken Little raised up, revealing a hole in the floor, and the other man led the protagonist into a secret room where they planned and plotted a rebellion.

As I recall, the man had given out pamphlets to a select few saying "A man's life is in your hands!" and the second guy, who was in advertising, decided to promote the power and prestige you could obtain in their secret group.

I also remember a story where people rented stairs in staircases and slept on them at night. An entire extended family slept in a tiny apartment. The baby's crib was over the sink. They only flushed once a day. The part that I want to share is they had two pipes running into the house, saltwater and fresh. They used the saltwater as much as possible and then rinsed with fresh.

How much can be done with saltwater?

That's exactly it! And with that: Google turns up "Chicken Little", by Frederick Pohl.

Durh... I actually have a bunch of Pohl books in my library, but none feature that specific story.

Originally Posted by freebeard

Barbarella is interesting to compare with Valerian or John Carter of Mars, all based on comics that have been ripped off so much they now seem derivative.

I nearly choked when I first read complaints that John Carter of Mars was a ripoff of Planet Hulk.

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In line with vat-grown meat, I was wondering about genetically engineering micro-organisms to sequester carbon.

Then it hit me... they already do that. Duh am I slow today.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0117102154.htm

https://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index...gro-ecosystems

Turns out the soil holds more carbon than the atmosphere and biosphere combined.

Which makes the loss of topsoil and arable land even more worrying, as it's a potent carbon sink.

Focusing research on this kills quite a few birds with one stone.

[Xist]

The story involving an amorphous blob named Chicken Little was called "Chicken Little?"

I am glad that we figured out that!

I have not read a good book in a while. I read 100 pages in one of the more recent Artemis Fowl books while waiting between clients on Friday. The previous client was a no-show. The other client canceled about half an hour before our appointment, but live an hour away.

It would take a good five or six hours to finish that book. I am sure that I will waste more than that in the next few hours.

I am distracted far too easily.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by redneck

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The IPCC is still wrong on climate change. Scientists prove it.

http://www.americanthinker.com/artic...#ixzz5TOVSnXLv


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Read the article.

Lots of good observations.






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The house of cards begins to fall.

[oil pan 4]

On CBS this morning they are saying in 2040 will see lots of sea level rise, the Bahamas and maldeeves will be gone.

They are saying the sea level could rise 5 to 7 feet, they infer that it will happen during this time.
Which we know isn't going to happen.

So more lies and deception from the believers.

But the maldeeves already spent their UN climate change money on multiple, multi million dollar beach resorts.
They were laughing all the way to the bankwith that check, the laughed harder when it cleared.
I know some one who went there last summer so the islands and resorts are there.
She posted lot and lots of pictures to fb and they don't look like they are struggling at all.

They have been wrong for the last 20 years, I bet they are going to wrong for the next 20 years too.

[redpoint5]

So we have some global warming deniers, and we have many global warming supporters; do we have any global warming supporters who also think it might be a net good for humans, if only in the short term?

If a tree is falling in your direction, you wouldn't launch an investigation as to whether the wind blew it over, or someone pushed it. Instead you'd assess if it's going to hit you and figure out which direction you need to go.

[sendler]

I'm in a forth category. A climate change believer that is pragmatic to understand that we have a much bigger problem than too much carbon. Which is too little carbon. When the liquid fuel turns the corner on availability in 20 years the price will sky rocket and wreck the world economy beyond all redemption. There will be a Great Simplification.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

So we have some global warming deniers, and we have many global warming supporters; do we have any global warming supporters who also think it might be a net good for humans, if only in the short term?

I guess I could shoe-horn myself into that category. My choose-your-poison scenario is runaway greenhouse effect, punctuated by Asteroidal Winter. Only those living in geodesic vacuum-flask pods will survive to repopulate.

[oil pan 4]

Anyone who doesn't believe that the Climate changes probably only has a 4th grade education and thinks the earth is less than 5,000 years old.

I stay away from trees that could fall.
I let them fall on other people so I can say "I told you not to stand there".

I expect to see a return to coal fired ocean going vessels and possibly even coal fired trains with in my life time.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

I lived in Norfolk Virginia and still know people there.
Nothing is happening.
Nice try.

On the weather channel this morning some group global of global warming scientists hacks are saying we (as in we the world) need to drop CO2 emissions by 10% by 2030 and be carbon neutral by 2050.

Let's see, China is probably going to double carbon emissions by 2030, Germany and Japan are projected to grow carbon emissions "because they are afraid of nuclear power" now. Russia probably going to grow their carbon emissions because they just don't care.
The United States is probably going to be the only country reducing carbon emissions.

The decision has been made by Germany and Japan that nuclear power is more scary than global warming.

So why should anyone care?

Open your eyes.

https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warmin...tation-norfolk

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/04/s...ady-begun.html

https://www.npr.org/2014/06/24/32489...g-and-planning

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/1...rming-virginia

Using Low Impact Development Concepts to Reduce Flooding, Norfolk, Virginia – Naturally Resilient Communities

https://pilotonline.com/news/governm...27d57f77b.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-flooding.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.0a08af02e00b

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/58963...ainst-flooding

Recurrent Flooding in Norfolk, VA - Virginia Coastal Policy Center

Atlantic Surging, Virginia Sinking

Adapting to Flooding in Norfolk

https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-06-...water-approach

You can try to deny facts - but it only proves your willful ignorance.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by redneck

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The IPCC is still wrong on climate change. Scientists prove it.

http://www.americanthinker.com/artic...#ixzz5TOVSnXLv


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Read the article.

Lots of good observations.



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The NIPCC is a fake organization - it is not valid.