The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[oil pan 4]

Well so much for "the sun doesn't effect climate".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...nasa-space/amp

If the sun doesn't effect climate then it should just continue to get warmer and warmer with no pauses, no cool downs until we all die, right?

They are probably facing the inconvenient truth icon and gold are beaming back and are preparing a soft kill for idea that man is the driving force behind climate change.

[Xist]

I am also unfamiliar with Express.co.uk. The article seemed adequate:

Martin Mlynczak of NASA's Langley Research Center told CBN: "We see a cooling trend.

"High above Earth's surface, near the edge of space, our atmosphere is losing heat energy.

“If current trends continue, it could soon set a Space Age record for cold.

"The thermosphere always cools off during Solar Minimum. It's one of the most important ways the solar cycle affects our planet.”

NASA's states on its website: “All weather on Earth, from the surface of the planet out into space, begins with the Sun.

“Space weather and terrestrial weather (the weather we feel at the surface) are influenced by the small changes the Sun undergoes during its solar cycle.”

The space agency adds on its Thermosphere Climate Index (TCI) “a weather metric that tells us how the top of Earth's atmosphere (or 'thermosphere') is responding to solar activity” that “the top of Earth's atmosphere is approximately 10 times cooler than it was during the record-setting Solar Max of 1957-58.”

The Sun was not expected to head into a solar minimum until around 2020, and if it is heading in early, it will mean a prolonged cold snap.

The last time there was a prolonged solar minimum, it led to a ‘mini ice-age’, scientifically known as the Maunder minimum - which lasted for 70 years.

The Maunder minimum, which saw seven decades of freezing weather, began in 1645 and lasted through to 1715, and happened when sunspots were exceedingly rare.

During this period, temperatures dropped globally by 1.3 degrees celsius leading to shorter seasons and ultimately food shortages.

I cannot find much about Martin Mlynczak or the TCI, but apparently he and his colleagues introduced it here: "We therefore propose a new index, the Thermosphere Climate Index (TCI)" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4681456/


This is the page they quote: https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/impacts/sp...mpacts-climate

I cannot find the Thermosphere Climate Index, although I found another article that included Mr. Mlynczak:

"The time series cover nearly 5 years from 2002 through 2006. The infrared and
solar time series exhibit a decrease in radiated and absorbed power consistent with the declining
phase of the current 11-year solar cycle." https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/c...0080021262.pdf

Apparently, it contains each word from that title, but not the complete phrase.

Here is the article at CBN: https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2...-what-it-means

So, someone at CBN interviewed somebody at NASA and only a few places are reporting on it. They do not know about it? It does not fit their agenda? They are too busy trying out new selfie filters?

I do not have any idea.

While trying to find confirmation for all of that I found this: https://sputniknews.com/us/201811151...Camp-Wildfire/

[redneck]

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard

THERE'S your problem. That guy is a fraud.

I don’t have a problem.

I listed four articles with slightly different takes, which the first one
“The Washington Post” was the origin of the story for the other three.

You evidently do not like the last author.

That would be your problem, not mine.

Which doesn’t change the fact that mistakes were made or intentionally included by quote unquote “official climate scientists” trying to show a increase above the natural warming trend.

If anything, it shows that “independent analysis” is not only warranted, it is needed...





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[oil pan 4]

They probably figuredtoo many people knew about it andshould just come lean instead of risk another climate gate.

I believe these wild fires are a construct of man and how the wild fires tear through a community is 100% our fault.
All you have to do is look at satellite images they have houses backed right up to forest then cram houses all together and on top of each other.
Like wtf did you people expect to happen.

[redneck]

Originally Posted by Xist

Redneck, I have some concerns with your articles. Mostly you gave four sources and several quotes, but did not specify from which source they came. I do not know who Delingpole is. He is not mentioned in the first three articles that I skimmed, but

"Co-author Ralph Keeling, climate scientist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, took full blame and thanked Lewis for alerting him to the mistake." https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...113-story.html

I had not heard of Global Warming Policy Forum, but their article is based on the one by The Washington Post. I skimmed the Breitbart piece.

I regret it.

Oil Pan, nobody gave evidence that anyone else found errors and people ignored them.

People make mistakes--like reading Breitbart.

Comprehension | Reading Rockets





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[oil pan 4]

Such lovely global warming we are having.
27 states under winter weather warnings and advisories, a month before winter.
Trust me I would rather have summer like weather well into november over this cold and snow BS.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Well so much for "the sun doesn't effect climate".

Who said that?

The sun is not driving the climate change, this time.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by redneck

You evidently do not like the last author.

My opinion of the guy has nothing to do with it. He is a known liar about the climate.

Since you uncritically take his word for it - you lose credibility, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyMaRx7gIGY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17mKIKGEF5E

This one also debunks the "sun is causing climate change" myth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvztL9r47MI

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Such lovely global warming we are having.
27 states under winter weather warnings and advisories, a month before winter.
Trust me I would rather have summer like weather well into november over this cold and snow BS.

Why are you relying on local weather to discount global climate change? That would reveal that you are misinformed ...

[sendler]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Such lovely global warming we are having.
27 states under winter weather warnings and advisories, a month before winter.
Trust me I would rather have summer like weather well into november over this cold and snow BS.

Unfortunately the central North America region is one of the few places on Earth that has not warmed. Due to the new irregular path of the Polar Vortex. The Russian Steppes and Northern Passage have been a big winner with a gain of several degrees since 1980.
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https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/news/2008/
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