The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[sendler]

Rearanging is the only solution. We are not going to build our way out of resource depletion.

[oil pan 4]

You should read the comments on face book on sponsored posts on alternative energy.
There are no shortage of genuine idiots.
People think electric car batteries last 4 years, hydrogen for hydrogen cars is going to all come from water, all our power can easily come from solar panels, there is absolutely no need for nuclear power generation in the future.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I expect EVs to become more and more commonplace as variety expands and prices come down. Don't know if there will be a hockey stick moment like the transition from horse-drawn carriages to horseless carriages, but it's certainly possible, especially if there are breakthroughs in battery technology.

My wife's always getting stuff for our baby, and I'm always commenting "well how did anyone have children 100 years ago". Most recent purchase; a nursing necklace. I didn't know such a thing existed until yesterday.

This morning,on Deutche-Velle TV,from Berlin,they said that VW will be converting 3-manufacturing plants over to EV production.They've cut a deal with SK Innovation,South Korea to supply the packs.
Europe already offers 25-different EVs on the market.
Jaguar will offer EV variants for half their models by 2025.
Mercedes-Benz expects 65% of their sales to be EVs by 2040.
ICE has been banned in a number of countries for the near future.
Looks like electric is hitting it's stride.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

There were pictures of that city in Japan that was hit with simultaneous tsunami and earthquake. The buildings were on fire, but the streets were flooded.

Tolls up to 61, but ISIS is saying we deserve it. Taking heat off the California governor who just vetoed a [non-partisan unamimously passed] bill to cover costs of powerline maintenance?

PBS television reported that the powerlines belonged to Pacific Gas & Electric.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by Xist

Which Phil are we supposed to believe?!



Well, my dad didn't have a better chance anywhere else.



Need is subjective. My parents had four kids and a station wagon. Look how we turned out!

No, wait, we are bad examples.



Hey! I am hoping that nobody notices!

My browser does not give me a broken red line for heatwave, but says that freebeard should be capitalized.

You're right,and it's all we've got.
In his book,'How Not To Die',Dr. Michael Gregor shared some statistics about the likelihood of dying by going to a 'doctor.' It was a borrowed book,so I apologize for the lack of specificity.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redneck

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Scientists acknowledge key errors in study of how fast the oceans are warming

https://www.washingtonpost.com/energ...=.1d5810467715


Climate contrarian uncovers scientific error, upends major ocean warming study

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...113-story.html


SCIENTISTS ACKNOWLEDGE KEY ERRORS IN STUDY OF HOW FAST THE OCEANS ARE WARMING

https://www.thegwpf.com/scientists-a...s-are-warming/


Delingpole: ‘We Really Muffed’ It – Scientist Admits Error in Hyped Global Warming Study

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...warming-study/


















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So the central conclusion remains the same,they just can't claim as much resolution in the degree probability.Yes?
Like every financial analysts in pre-meltdown 2008?

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

That seems to be the repeating theme of the global warming movement.
Cherry pick, use bad data as long as it supports the narrative, include errors as long as they support the narrative.

Yeah,now they're trying to run Jennie-O Turkey out of business with their bogus claims about salmonella.Who can actually see the bacteria anyway.? You can't trust petri dishes or microscopes,that's just made up!
Just another FDA conspiracy to deny consumers of their purchase preference!
Just like climatologists.
Thermometers.What a joke! Like they could tell ya anything.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by sendler

Dense energy surplus being the critical concept. The wishful thinking of the Roadmap to Renewables team determined that with all gains in efficiency in place from complete electrification and conversion to hydrogen, that the current USA primary energy consumption could be reduced from 3.1TW to 1.6TW. Further analysis determined that the best mix of solar, wind, hydro, and storage. would require 160,000 square miles of land and near shore area use and full power continent wide grid ties. So, while technically not impossible, all of this is highly infeasible. Things will be much smaller and simpler after the carbon pulse.

Wars aren't feasible,but we muddle through and come out better than we were when we went in.
Coal's history.Even with zero emissions controls it cannot compete in the market against renewables.
Even natural gas has been eclipsed by renewables.
Now I admit,that if Barbie an Ken are going to continue to go shopping eleven times a day,in their full-size SUV,every day;then we probably aren't going to make it.
If Barbie and Ken ever decide that their lifestyle constitutes a deathstyle for the whole planet,then maybe we can get things off dead center.
Much of the US total electrical load is waste.As is liquid hydrocarbons,natural gas,etc..
I don't believe that we have to build out to our current 'waste' load.But some Americans are going to have to learn the meaning of 'no.'

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Well so much for "the sun doesn't effect climate".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...nasa-space/amp

If the sun doesn't effect climate then it should just continue to get warmer and warmer with no pauses, no cool downs until we all die, right?

They are probably facing the inconvenient truth icon and gold are beaming back and are preparing a soft kill for idea that man is the driving force behind climate change.

I marvel at your ability to know things in advance.
Where were you when the Tonkin Gulf Incident took place?
You could have saved us 58,000 dead,and hundreds of thousands of disabled vets.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Lies. All lies. just ask e. e. cummings.

Redneck -- Thank you for you good work.

I just skim things nowadays, but I saw the affect/effect conflation. The Sun causes the climate. Man-made effects modulate it.



Express is respectable, be wary of Daily Mail. Sputnik is like RT, you go off-shore for the real scoop. But we shouldn't blame the technology for the California political class not understanding maintenance and public safety.

We should still count the cost.

The quote you've attributed to me,I never posted.