02-08-2019, 08:07 AM
|
#4891 (permalink)
|
Master EcoWalker
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,999
Thanks: 1,714
Thanked 2,246 Times in 1,455 Posts
|
If the data does not fit your opinions, just leave it out.
Opinions survive much better without proof.
Citing 'supra-national socialism' is an attempt to invoke Godwin's law.
If she really wrote that she drops in my esteem.
https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-02-08
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.2 Gmeter or 0.13 Mmile.
For confirmation go to people just like you.
For education go to people unlike yourself.
Last edited by RedDevil; 02-08-2019 at 08:35 AM..
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
02-08-2019, 09:54 AM
|
#4893 (permalink)
|
Master EcoWalker
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,999
Thanks: 1,714
Thanked 2,246 Times in 1,455 Posts
|
Quote:
Colonisation of the Americas at the end of the 15th Century killed so many people, it disturbed Earth's climate.
|
Which (the impact on the climate) I think is highly dubious.
If anything, both the current population and the amount of fossil carbon we release today completely dwarfs the effect the depopulation of the Americas had.
Looking at the historical world population (scroll down) the demise of indigenous Americans in the 1500s was more than compensated in numbers in other parts of the world. It does not seem a likely cause for the little ice age.
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.2 Gmeter or 0.13 Mmile.
For confirmation go to people just like you.
For education go to people unlike yourself.
Last edited by RedDevil; 02-08-2019 at 05:24 PM..
|
|
|
02-08-2019, 02:37 PM
|
#4894 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,497
Thanks: 8,060
Thanked 8,860 Times in 7,314 Posts
|
Quote:
Colonisation of the Americas at the end of the 15th Century killed so many people, it disturbed Earth's climate.
Quote:
Which I think is highly dubious.
|
|
It happened but it wasn't due to colonization. It was a First Contact scenario. The Spanish brought pigs with them and introduced diseases that spread faster than the explorers. When the Puritans landed at Plymouth Rock, they found deserted villages.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
02-08-2019, 03:45 PM
|
#4895 (permalink)
|
Master EcoWalker
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,999
Thanks: 1,714
Thanked 2,246 Times in 1,455 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard
It happened but it wasn't due to colonization. It was a First Contact scenario. The Spanish brought pigs with them and introduced diseases that spread faster than the explorers. When the Puritans landed at Plymouth Rock, they found deserted villages.
|
The extinction is a fact - I was referring to the effect it had on the climate.
While a lot of cultured land reforested in the Americas, the opposite happened elsewhere as the population grew in other regions. So it could not likely have had a decisive effect on the climate. That's what I meant.
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.2 Gmeter or 0.13 Mmile.
For confirmation go to people just like you.
For education go to people unlike yourself.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to RedDevil For This Useful Post:
|
|
02-08-2019, 04:23 PM
|
#4896 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,497
Thanks: 8,060
Thanked 8,860 Times in 7,314 Posts
|
I wasn't commenting on the climatic result, so much as the hazards of a First Contact. The Nordics in Newfoundland didn't provide the same vectors for disease.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
|
|
02-09-2019, 12:18 AM
|
#4897 (permalink)
|
Corporate imperialist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,265
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,568 Times in 2,832 Posts
|
Our progressives setting them selves up to lose in 2020.
They have alienated about 80 to 90% of Americans with their environmental lunacy.
No one is on board with banning cars and air travel.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to oil pan 4 For This Useful Post:
|
|
02-09-2019, 12:35 AM
|
#4898 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Radium Springs, NM
Posts: 465
Thanks: 2
Thanked 528 Times in 278 Posts
|
Which part of using 1/3rd the energy at 1/2 the cost to go camping with enough energy on board to not even have to plug in at a camp site are you not getting? We tow a 5th wheel which could really benefit from having it own battery pack for stand alone power and an electric drive to assist our truck in moving the rig up to speed from a stop, climbing hills, and regenerative braking.
__________________
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to aerostealth For This Useful Post:
|
|
02-09-2019, 12:50 AM
|
#4899 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,497
Thanks: 8,060
Thanked 8,860 Times in 7,314 Posts
|
Quote:
No one is on board with banning cars and air travel.
|
Even if they were, eliminating 'farting' cows and replacing everybody's house seals the deal. Individually they're not so much of a problem (floating undersea hyperloops) but all of it all at once will ...what? Gag the golden goose?
Not trying to talk over you aerostealth. Had the subject of pusher trailers come up before?
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
02-09-2019, 02:40 AM
|
#4900 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Radium Springs, NM
Posts: 465
Thanks: 2
Thanked 528 Times in 278 Posts
|
No clue what you are talking about. I am talking about how to do anything at all with less units of energy and the more carbon neutral that energy is the better. As far a banning air travel or anything else you just never know. If it comes to a choice between accepting limits or looking down the barrel of the extinction of the human race I would vote for some self imposed limits. The freedom to only just die isn't a desirable freedom.
__________________
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to aerostealth For This Useful Post:
|
|
|