The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by sendler

Very hopeful but untrue. Many thermal industrial processes for carbon fuel such as cement manufacturing, are very efficient and electrification will make for little reduction in the energy required. Some transportation uses of electrification are almost three times more efficient (except for the embodied energy and raw materials of the storage medium) so a good ball park figure to wish for might be more like a 2:1 reduction in energy with the full electrification of everything. So the less than 2% of total energy from solar and wind right now would be more like 4% in that case and become actually visible on the chart. But still a very small fraction of ever replacing carbon fuels without a drastic reduction in consumption and opulent lifestyle.
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Over-optimistic complacency in the hope of a Star Trek high tech replacement to allow a minimal response is a big problem right now.
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The 'renewable' question typically resides in the realm of electric power generation.How about we start there before venturing off into other domains.
I have data in the pipeline that I'm assembling for future posts.

[NeilBlanchard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAAUbzkkEKU

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard

So - if money isn't Property, you can give me all your money?

I think we can agree that Money is not Speech.

Physical currency is the property of the government, which is why intentionally destroying it is against the law.

I suppose money could be considered property in the sense that there's other things like intellectual property that have value. Something intangible yet valuable. The problem is that if it is property, it isn't defined. Money represents options until it's exchanged for something concrete.

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard

Can we put a corporation in prison? Can we execute a corporation? Does a corporation get the right to vote? When does the corporation get jury duty?

Corporations are a creation of the State, and they originally were intended to do one thing, and then dissolved.

Corporations can be sued and killed. Those responsible for the corporations can be held accountable.

The problem isn't corporations, or the legal status as an individual; the problem is lack of accountability.

Originally Posted by freebeard

Their conclusion was that single-use, flimsy disposable plastic bags are the best option in terms of environmental and climate costs (however, the Ministry's analysis did not factor in marine life impacts of these bags, which are severe).

I recycle plastic bags that don't get reused.


So is Bitcoin speech? Asking for a friend.

I've suspected those plastic bags were the best solution, as it was created by a free market to solve a problem using minimal resources.

Recycled plastic bags clog up the sorting machinery and are ultimately thrown away. In fact, most plastic is discarded because there's too many types of plastic, and they aren't easily sortable.

My bags don't end up in the ocean because my garbage service doesn't dump their garbage in the ocean, and it would be more expensive to do so since I don't live near the ocean. 0% of my plastic bags have ended up in the ocean.

Money is convertible into whatever you want. It can be converted into direct speech, or indirectly say something through the transaction. Bitcoin is no different in this regard.

[freebeard]

So, money is like electricity?

It's not all puppies and unicorns: science.slashdot.org/story/.../microplastics-are-blowing-in-the-wind

Originally Posted by aerohead

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Made me look: You take good notes.

[redpoint5]

Yeah, I suppose money is like electricity. It has quantum potential until that potential is realized.

How much micro plastic is emitted from the time a plastic grocery bag is manufactured, until I use it and it finally gets burned in the Brooks incinerator or buried? My guess is not much.

Eliminating plastic grocery bags from the store doesn't eliminate my need for the plastic bags and my purchase of them.

Then, I'm not sure my heavy duty reusable bags are more environmentally friendly in the long run.

[freebeard]

How much micro plastic is emitted from the time a plastic grocery bag is manufactured, until I use it and it finally gets burned in the Brooks incinerator or buried? My guess is not much.

The problem isn't you or I. It's the teeming masses sleep-walking through life.

[oil pan 4]

A European study on heavy cotton reuseable shopping bags found that they had to be reused between 50 to 100 timed to "be better for the environment" compared to cheap plastic bags.
Sounds like the best thing would be to reuse the plastic ones until they fail.

[freebeard]

Some bacteria-related stories from Subverse (not that Subverse, the other one. ):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0X2kFAB884

MrSTVR — 2 days ago
Thus Weaponized Autism was defeated by bacteria. This is a weird case of Life Imitating War of the Worlds.

[sendler]

A message from the future after the Green New Deal. Everything has to change.
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https://youtu.be/d9uTH0iprVQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=d9uTH0iprVQ
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[oil pan 4]

Everything will change.
"The new red deal" forces change through the threat of force.