The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

In one example,53 ice cores from five continents were compared and all found to reveal the same data,from Arctic,to Antarctic,and many points in between.
Sea sediment,coral,stalagtite,tree ring,time series jived as well.
They have data reaching back through 4-ice ages.420,000 years.
The numerical simulations have been very accurate in predictions.Dead nuts on.
There's evidence of really abrupt warmings.Carbon dioxide was always involved.
You may slide by,as the energy distribution is seemingly random.But the mountain glaciologists have directly measured the radical warming associated with continental interior higher elevation elevated warming.
It's pretty disconcerting.
It would be very ironic to do the EV, photovoltaics,and biomass heating as you are,only to be hammered first in line.

I didn't know dirty ice cubes and tree rings were as accurate as satellites and digital weather stations.
People living below sea level are going to get it first.
I wouldn't mind having summer like weather into December. 2010 it was fall like in January winter didn't hit till mid december, then in 2017 it was summer like well into November and that works for me.

[litesong]

Originally Posted by freebeard

The science has be appropriated by decidedly political interests. In the USofA that's the Social Democrats.

Of course not. AGW science is AGW science. But, re-pubic-lick-un Exxon CEO's figgered they were gonna lose "profits", if'n they didn't get some of that there anti-AGW "sigh-ants" into the CON-versions.

[litesong]

Originally Posted by freebeard

.....what about 'twists in the wind to adorn' and 'struggled to dress'? Dress as in cloak or address?

freebeard struggles to understand sentences, as it struggles to understand AGW.

[litesong]

litesong wrote:
"don'T rump", making excuses for white nationalists who killed a woman in Charlottesville, said there were good people on both sides.....along with his other 10,000 plus lies.
P.S. update: A news-person just now, numbered the lies of "don'T rump", in excess of 12,000.

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Do you know how to tell if a politician is lying? See if their lips are moving.
PS. Those "news" people are trying desperately to match the number of lies.

Originally Posted by aerohead

Redpoint5's a big boy,and he can come to his in defense..... I....have noticed.....redpoint5 to participate in reasonable,measured conversations......

In this case, redpoint jokes about racist, sexist, xenophobic "don'T rump", & lies about news people. Such defenses of "don'T rump", only polish the glaring shine of racism.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by litesong

redpoint makes all the racist, sexist, xenophobic, bought-by-putin re-pubic-lick-un "don'T rump" support points.

I'm all for free speech, and I've never blocked someone or asked for a mod to ban them.

That said, we've had relatively respectful dialogue in this thread, and it's among my favorite. If this gets locked because of your shameless name calling, I will ask for your removal.

You want to call me names, please do it in a PM so others can continue participating in dialogue.

As far as defending myself goes; nobody has quoted something I've said and asked me to account for it, so I don't feel like I'm being attacked. Even if they did, I'd only feel like that idea is under attack, and I'm not a single idea. As far as I'm concerned, all ideas are subject to attack, and time has a way of revealing truth.

[freebeard]

Called it back at Permalink #6414

Originally Posted by myself

Are you just here to kill the thread?

litesong — Perhaps you didn't know that your Profile Page/Statistics extracts every post you've made on the forum. With a first post in November 2011, you might have seen threads get locked and accounts deleted.

I think you turned when I suggested an extension to one of your pet names based on Brazil being 'ass-ociated' with poisonous arrows (and blow darts).


edit:
Some (all?) cultures don't respond well to social media. news.slashdot.org/.../youtubes-algorithms-blamed-for-brazils-dangerous-conspiracy-video-sharing-on-whatsapp

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

So, scientists volunteer their time? Job security has no value?

I'm kinda seeing how this is a 1-way bias.

You are equating record profits, in the Billions of dollars - with job security? You are right to say follow the money - but then you have to actually do that.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

You really don't know much about the funding side of science.
How do you think the power bill gets paid, lease or rent gets paid, money for test gear comes from?
Money for these things doesn't miracle it's self into existence unless it's a .gov lab.

To equate fossil fuel company profits, in the billions and billions of dollars each year - with paying the bills - is quite revealing of your bias.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Now that is flat wrong. The science has be appropriated by decidedly political interests. In the USofA that's the Social Democrats.

As you say, that one political faction bases it's policies ON FACTS - that is a good thing. If another political faction is ignoring facts, then that pretty much points to whose policies have a chance to do something useful - and whose policies will fail.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Darn that puts me at less than 4,000 feet above sea lever, better start looking for higher ground.

Where does your food come from? Where does your water come from? You are dependent on the economy, like everybody else - and we all will pay for the disruptions and upheavals and changes, to all the segments of our economy.