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Old 08-17-2019, 05:15 PM   #6551 (permalink)
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In his book(s),'How Not To Die',Dr. Michael Gregor fingered salt,sugar,high-fructose corn sugar,fat,processed foods,(the standard American diet) as the gateway to high blood pressure,clogged arteries,morbid obesity,type-2 diabetes,heart attack,and stroke.

...I've got a neighbor that tried the KETO diet,and is gonna try vegan/vegetarian.
This comment is for the broader audience, but there's nothing that distinguishes high fructose corn sugar from other simple sugars, such as cane sugar from a health standpoint. The reason it's unhealthy is because of excessive consumption, not because it's a particularly "bad" type of sugar.

If KETO is the one where you eat only lipids, then my friend tried that one, and after an initial terrible period of being lethargic, adapted to the diet. It allowed him to miss meals without feeling drained, and generally helped stabilize energy levels while developing a leaner physique without exercise.

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There are existing cultures today,in which no daily experience brushes up against economics.We want to be precise in our use of language. If you want to use 'economics' as a metaphor for belief/attitude,need,strategy,action,reward there wouldn't really need to be anything else said.
Perhaps my usage is broad, but there is a system of "economics" in any culture, meaning a method of balancing what you desire with the desires of everyone else.

Most simple cultures aren't simple because they have chosen it, but because they haven't had opportunity to consume more. There are exceptions such as the Amish, but primitive tribes are moving towards modernization.

The Gods Must Be Crazy is a satire about how greed is intrinsic to the human soul, and it's often lack of opportunity that prevents those malevolent behaviors from springing up.

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Old 08-17-2019, 07:26 PM   #6552 (permalink)
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In one example,53 ice cores from five continents were compared and all found to reveal the same data,from Arctic,to Antarctic,and many points in between.
Sea sediment,coral,stalagtite,tree ring,time series jived as well.
They have data reaching back through 4-ice ages.420,000 years.
The numerical simulations have been very accurate in predictions.Dead nuts on.
There's evidence of really abrupt warmings.Carbon dioxide was always involved.
You may slide by,as the energy distribution is seemingly random.But the mountain glaciologists have directly measured the radical warming associated with continental interior higher elevation elevated warming.
It's pretty disconcerting.
It would be very ironic to do the EV, photovoltaics,and biomass heating as you are,only to be hammered first in line.
I didn't know dirty ice cubes and tree rings were as accurate as satellites and digital weather stations.
People living below sea level are going to get it first.
I wouldn't mind having summer like weather into December. 2010 it was fall like in January winter didn't hit till mid december, then in 2017 it was summer like well into November and that works for me.
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The science has be appropriated by decidedly political interests. In the USofA that's the Social Democrats.
Of course not. AGW science is AGW science. But, re-pubic-lick-un Exxon CEO's figgered they were gonna lose "profits", if'n they didn't get some of that there anti-AGW "sigh-ants" into the CON-versions.
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.....what about 'twists in the wind to adorn' and 'struggled to dress'? Dress as in cloak or address?
freebeard struggles to understand sentences, as it struggles to understand AGW.
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"don'T rump", making excuses for white nationalists who killed a woman in Charlottesville, said there were good people on both sides.....along with his other 10,000 plus lies.
P.S. update: A news-person just now, numbered the lies of "don'T rump", in excess of 12,000.
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Do you know how to tell if a politician is lying? See if their lips are moving.
PS. Those "news" people are trying desperately to match the number of lies.
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Redpoint5's a big boy,and he can come to his in defense..... I....have noticed.....redpoint5 to participate in reasonable,measured conversations......
In this case, redpoint jokes about racist, sexist, xenophobic "don'T rump", & lies about news people. Such defenses of "don'T rump", only polish the glaring shine of racism.
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redpoint makes all the racist, sexist, xenophobic, bought-by-putin re-pubic-lick-un "don'T rump" support points.
I'm all for free speech, and I've never blocked someone or asked for a mod to ban them.

That said, we've had relatively respectful dialogue in this thread, and it's among my favorite. If this gets locked because of your shameless name calling, I will ask for your removal.

You want to call me names, please do it in a PM so others can continue participating in dialogue.

As far as defending myself goes; nobody has quoted something I've said and asked me to account for it, so I don't feel like I'm being attacked. Even if they did, I'd only feel like that idea is under attack, and I'm not a single idea. As far as I'm concerned, all ideas are subject to attack, and time has a way of revealing truth.
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litesong — Perhaps you didn't know that your Profile Page/Statistics extracts every post you've made on the forum. With a first post in November 2011, you might have seen threads get locked and accounts deleted.

I think you turned when I suggested an extension to one of your pet names based on Brazil being 'ass-ociated' with poisonous arrows (and blow darts).


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Some (all?) cultures don't respond well to social media. news.slashdot.org/.../youtubes-algorithms-blamed-for-brazils-dangerous-conspiracy-video-sharing-on-whatsapp
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So, scientists volunteer their time? Job security has no value?

I'm kinda seeing how this is a 1-way bias.
You are equating record profits, in the Billions of dollars - with job security? You are right to say follow the money - but then you have to actually do that.
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You really don't know much about the funding side of science.
How do you think the power bill gets paid, lease or rent gets paid, money for test gear comes from?
Money for these things doesn't miracle it's self into existence unless it's a .gov lab.
To equate fossil fuel company profits, in the billions and billions of dollars each year - with paying the bills - is quite revealing of your bias.
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Now that is flat wrong. The science has be appropriated by decidedly political interests. In the USofA that's the Social Democrats.
As you say, that one political faction bases it's policies ON FACTS - that is a good thing. If another political faction is ignoring facts, then that pretty much points to whose policies have a chance to do something useful - and whose policies will fail.

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