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Old 08-19-2019, 12:40 PM   #6561 (permalink)
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I didn't know dirty ice cubes and tree rings were as accurate as satellites and digital weather stations.
How long have we had satellites and digital weather stations?

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Old 08-19-2019, 10:24 PM   #6562 (permalink)
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Just in time as I got a mailer begging me to conserve water.
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How long have we had satellites and digital weather stations?
Not long enough to use to diagnose climate change based on the definition of climate change.
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Old 08-20-2019, 07:53 AM   #6563 (permalink)
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A nice visualization of the scale and speed of climate change...

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Not long enough to use to diagnose climate change based on the definition of climate change.
Why did you mention them?
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As you say, that one political faction bases it's policies ON FACTS
Which one is that? I'd like to know which political group is the gatekeeper of truth.

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To equate fossil fuel company profits, in the billions and billions of dollars each year - with paying the bills - is quite revealing of your bias.
Right back 'atcha.

Do you think "rich" people have a different genetic composition than the "workin'" man? Do you think they are motivated by entirely different things? If so, please reveal the dollar amount in which a person switches motivation for behavior.

The same thing that drives a person to go from a $20k salary to a $40k salary is at play when a person wants to go from $1M to $2M.
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I'm just as bias as the 68% of people who refuse to pay more than $10 per month to help fix global warming.
I don't care about the oil companies. I drive a leaf.
Lately my biggest gasoline users are my professional grade weed eater and my little 60cc chainsaw.
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"As I see things, there are three broad possible futures that lie ahead:
This civilisation could collapse utterly and terminally, as a result of climatic instability (leading for instance to catastrophic food shortages as a probable mechanism of collapse), or possibly sooner than that, through nuclear war, pandemic, or financial collapse leading to mass civil breakdown. Any of these are likely to be precipitated in part by ecological/climate instability, as Darfur and Syria were. Or

This civilisation (we) will manage to seed a future successor-civilisation(s), as this one collapses.Or

This civilisation will somehow manage to transform itself deliberately, radically and rapidly, in an unprecedented manner, in time to avert collapse.

The third option, at which XR aims, is by far the least likely, though the most desirable, simply because either of the other options will involve vast suffering and death on an unprecedented scale."
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"As I see things, there are three broad possible futures that lie ahead:
•This civilisation could collapse utterly and terminally, as a result of climatic instability (leading for instance to catastrophic food shortages as a probable mechanism of collapse), or possibly sooner than that, through nuclear war, pandemic, or financial collapse leading to mass civil breakdown. Any of these are likely to be precipitated in part by ecological/climate instability, as Darfur and Syria were. Or

•This civilisation (we) will manage to seed a future successor-civilisation(s), as this one collapses.Or

•This civilisation will somehow manage to transform itself deliberately, radically and rapidly, in an unprecedented manner, in time to avert collapse.

The third option, at which XR aims, is by far the least likely, though the most desirable, simply because either of the other options will involve vast suffering and death on an unprecedented scale."
Scans better with the bullets, but it still seems simplistic. Try a Venn diagram — #2 and #3 have overlap.

The hippys were right five decades ago. There is still a force warping mass-consciousness away from [so-called] anti-materialism. The intention behind people's everyday actions is the crux of the problem.
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We are undergoing a species level right of passage — the generations alive today are challenged to come together in unprecedented levels of cooperation to fundamentally redesign the human impact and presence on Earth. Our species is called to step into mature membership of the community of life and to become a regenerative rather than destructive influence on the ecosystems we inhabit. The window of opportunity is closing! It is “all hands on deck” and too few of us — but rapidly growing numbers — are responding.
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