Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Off-Topic > The Lounge
Register Now
 Register Now
 


Closed Thread  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-16-2019, 01:29 PM   #6531 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 19,267
Thanks: 5,399
Thanked 6,353 Times in 5,095 Posts
Quote:
freebeard thought that redpoint's plagiarism was good. So freebeard really wound up ITS plagiarist curveball.
I'd asked about pronouns. It looks like it's 'none', but what is ITS an acronym for?

In other news, would buying Greenland be a Good Idea? If global warming (irrespective of cause) is happening then yes, but if the Earth's normal homeostatic processes kick in, all that mining and energy extraction would have to happen under more ice.

What to do, what to do....

__________________
.


If I leave here tomorrow, would you still remember me?
Lynyrd Skynrd -- Free Bird
_________________
 
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 08-16-2019, 02:41 PM   #6532 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
NeilBlanchard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth
Posts: 7,882

Mica Blue - '05 Scion xA RS 2.0
Team Toyota
90 day: 42.48 mpg (US)

Forest - '15 Nissan Leaf S
Team Nissan
90 day: 156.46 mpg (US)

Number 7 - '15 VW e-Golf SEL
TEAM VW AUDI Group
90 day: 155.81 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,403
Thanked 2,901 Times in 1,819 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
So you agree that the principle of funding bias applies equally regardless of political affiliation, or is this a magical 1-way phenomenon?
Oil companies make massive profits - some of the largest ever.

Science is not profit driven, and no one is getting rich.
__________________
Sincerely, Neil

http://neilblanchard.blogspot.com/
 
Old 08-16-2019, 04:35 PM   #6533 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 8,995

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 28.24 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Prius Plug-in - '12 Toyota Prius Plug-in
90 day: 57.64 mpg (US)

Mazda CX-5 - '17 Mazda CX-5 Touring
90 day: 27.45 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,135
Thanked 3,445 Times in 2,567 Posts
So, scientists volunteer their time? Job security has no value?

I'm kinda seeing how this is a 1-way bias.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
 
The Following User Says Thank You to redpoint5 For This Useful Post:
aerohead (08-21-2019)
Old 08-16-2019, 08:37 PM   #6534 (permalink)
EV convert
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 9,296

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 224
Thanked 3,031 Times in 2,363 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard View Post
Oil companies make massive profits - some of the largest ever.

Science is not profit driven, and no one is getting rich.
You really don't know much about the funding side of science.
How do you think the power bill gets paid, lease or rent gets paid, money for test gear comes from?
Money for these things doesn't miracle it's self into existence unless it's a .gov lab.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
 
Old 08-17-2019, 08:08 AM   #6535 (permalink)
In the fasting lane
 
RedDevil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,877

Red Devil - '11 Honda Insight Elegance
Team Honda
90 day: 49.75 mpg (US)

It - '09 Hyundai I10 Active Cool
Team Hyundai
90 day: 31.45 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,626
Thanked 2,145 Times in 1,385 Posts
It is called the educational system. And that's its main purpose.
The money is provided to get people educated, not to specifically steer towards some goal that suits lobbyists best.
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.17 Gmeter or 0.1 Mmile.



"In hindsight, I should have bet on the horse that won the race"
"In hindsight, I should have bet more on that horse"
 
The Following User Says Thank You to RedDevil For This Useful Post:
NeilBlanchard (08-19-2019)
Old 08-17-2019, 09:15 AM   #6536 (permalink)
EV convert
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 9,296

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 224
Thanked 3,031 Times in 2,363 Posts
In the United States even educational science programs are expected to solicite private funds.
If you look at private and state run schools the top 2 ways to earn their own income is always sports mainly ticket sales and the science department earning grants, securing study funding ect.
I wanted to be a scientist like my dad but was turned off by all the non science like the large portion of the job where all you do is try to obtain funds, the politics and trying to sell your scientific services like a used car salesman.

I have already given sources but they were ignored like a cooler than expected temperature reading.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
 
Old 08-17-2019, 11:24 AM   #6537 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Everett WA
Posts: 508
Thanks: 67
Thanked 164 Times in 124 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
So you agree that the principle of funding bias applies equally regardless of political affiliation.....
AGW science never developed as a political affiliation. Exxon & anti-AGW funded talkers have all talk & "sigh-ants", but no AGW science. redpoint twists in the wind to adorn AGW, as a political talking point, as Exxon, industrial polluters & energy companies have also struggled to dress AGW.
 
The Following User Says Thank You to litesong For This Useful Post:
NeilBlanchard (08-19-2019)
Old 08-17-2019, 11:36 AM   #6538 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Everett WA
Posts: 508
Thanks: 67
Thanked 164 Times in 124 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
So, scientists volunteer their time?
Science is not profit-driven. But anti-AGW "sigh-ants" is profit driven.
 
The Following User Says Thank You to litesong For This Useful Post:
NeilBlanchard (08-19-2019)
Old 08-17-2019, 11:39 AM   #6539 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 19,267
Thanks: 5,399
Thanked 6,353 Times in 5,095 Posts
Quote:
AGW science never developed as a political affiliation. Exxon & anti-AGW funded talkers have all talk & "sigh-ants", but no AGW science. redpoint twists in the wind to adorn AGW, as a political talking point, as Exxon, industrial polluters & energy companies have also struggled to dress AGW.
Only one intentional mis-spelling, but what about 'twists in the wind to adorn' and 'struggled to dress'? Dress as in cloak or address?
Quote:
AGW science never developed as a political affiliation.
Now that is flat wrong. The science has be appropriated by decidedly political interests. In the USofA that's the Social Democrats.
__________________
.


If I leave here tomorrow, would you still remember me?
Lynyrd Skynrd -- Free Bird
_________________
 
Old 08-17-2019, 12:51 PM   #6540 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 12,626
Thanks: 20,291
Thanked 6,282 Times in 3,888 Posts
health

Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
With regards to the guest speaker I referenced, the claim was that reducing meat consumption (by whatever means adopted by the individual) is:

a. healthier
b. reduces CO2 emissions
c. reduces the extent of farming operations that some might find objectionable, such as raising animals that grow to a size that immobilizes movement due to hormones and breeding

I added that meat is more expensive than other foods, which is probably the key issue for me since I don't like spending money on what is ultimately poop.

The overall point was that there's probably at least 1 reason most people would find compelling enough to reduce meat consumption by any amount of their own choosing.

JBP went the other direction and is on an all beef diet and cites several health benefits from doing so.

I've basically never noticed any difference in any changes in diet, so I'm not very motivated for "health" reasons. Give me a Big Mac or a bowl of pasta, and I'll feel the same (less hungry).
In his book(s),'How Not To Die',Dr. Michael Gregor fingered salt,sugar,high-fructose corn sugar,fat,processed foods,(the standard American diet) as the gateway to high blood pressure,clogged arteries,morbid obesity,type-2 diabetes,heart attack,and stroke.
On one physical,I went out of range on blood pressure and cholesterol.My doctor said they could prescribe meds,I opted for a lifestyle change.I went on a flexitarian diet,eating 'trash' only four meals a week,otherwise a vegan diet,and within 6-months,everything was back in normal range.
Gregor's tracked randomized,large-cohort,double-blind,placebo-controlled clinical trials and is convinced that perhaps 80% of all American illness can be reversed with diet and lifestyle.
Some cultures in the Arctic circle live totally off reindeer meat and milk products.I've got a neighbor that tried the KETO diet,and is gonna try vegan/vegetarian.

__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
 
Closed Thread  Post New Thread


Tags
lies, opinion, reality, scam

Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com