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Old 09-23-2019, 03:11 AM   #6981 (permalink)
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Antarctic glaciers are getting..... slickery.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0920111355.htm
"4 oil pans" must be lubricating the Antarctic glacier bottoms with 4 quarts of oil.
Ah, a way for Greenland Ice Sheet to raise oceans levels.....from further inland than considered before:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/e...ser-thats-bad/

At some time, "4 oil cans" won't have to put any oil on glaciers to speed them toward the seas. Just let melt waters run to the ocean with no help, at all.
Can anyone say, "400 cubic kilometers of melt water to the sea per year".....some years ahead, 1000 cubic kilometers of melt water to the sea. Eventually, how 'bout 10,000 cubic kilometers of water per year to the oceans.


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Old 09-23-2019, 09:41 AM   #6982 (permalink)
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It just doesn't sound dooms day enough to motivate me and the other 97% of voters.
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I don't think electric vehicles do jack to save the planet, but it seems the cult of climatology believes everyone else should be forced to drive one. Look at our own climate justice virtue signalers here. Only 1 of them drives an electric, but they all think everyone else should be buying them.
I saw a where small town in Maine is installing a bunch of solar panels in a pointless virtue signaling move. The panels are going in a small clearing with Forrest on 3 sides and the panels will be buried in snow for at least 4 months out of the year and barely see any sun for half the year.
Just because solar panels will only work for a few months out of the year and are never going to be economical up north isn't a reason not to buy them, it's all about virtue signaling.
You have to spend other people's money in the proper politically motivated way to show how much you fake care about the environment.
I'm sure EVs do some immeasurably small thing to affect climate change, as nearly everything has an affect on nearly everything else, but your overall point stands that it isn't enough, and often misused to signal superior virtue and shame others.

There's a ground-installed collection of solar panels in a small farmer's field where I drive by. Probably 1/3 of the panel is blocked by weeds that were allowed to grow in front, and this is Oregon, so out of the 8 good daytime hours per day, about half of those are rainy/overcast. I see many instances of suboptimal installation here, presumably because the systems were subsidized heavily and hastily installed. Then there's the fact that anywhere in the rainy valley is a poor location for PV. On top of all that, the vast majority of our electricity is already among the cleanest and cheapest; hydro.

All that said, and even granted the virtue signaling, I do believe most in the extreme end of the climate change prevention camp have good intentions. It may be cult-ish, and they may have bad ideas, but I'm not going to ascribe ill-intent on them.
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I live in the country, have absolutely no public charging, pull a trailer, have one of the oldest shortest range slowest charging electric vehicles made and it works great for me.

What excuse could the believers possibly have?
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Same excuses everyone uses for falling short of their own standards of behavior. Denial, downplaying severity, procrastination, distraction, blame-shifting...

It's like how when we cut someone off, it's not that big of a deal because we either had to, or it was an honest mistake, or we were busy thinking about more important things... but when someone else cuts you off, they are wretched evil blights on humanity.

What I'm getting at is that those that would attempt to force people into EVs aren't evil sub-humans bent on ruining everything that's good, but just the normal kind of ignorant, limited, and fallible people like the rest of us. I don't find your examples of hypocrisy to prove the "believers" are ill-intentioned, or that all "believers" can be categorized as hypocrites.
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I.....have one of the oldest shortest range slowest charging electric vehicles made....
You pay big money for sub-standard items. I believe that.
I loved my electric bike, till someone stole it.
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.... 97% of voters.
"4 oil pans" thinks it represents 97% of voters. "4 oil pans" puts too much used sump pump oil on its salads.
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"4 oil pans" thinks it represents 97% of voters. "4 oil pans" puts too much used sump pump oil on its salads.
I LOLed a lot reading this, for various reasons. Mostly it struck me that the use of "it" to be the non-offensive way to refer to someone without implying gender is probably more offensive to most people. "It" sounds like an inanimate object, or something sub-human.

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