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I know I have planted way more trees than at least 99% of the virtue signaling believers.
They're on my land so no one will be cutting them down for decades.
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01-22-2020, 09:11 PM
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'Urban Heat Island Effect' has been factored into the temperature records climatologists have used since the 1980s.Also,remote,terrestrial locations,far away from any urban development continue to warm.Out in the middle of the oceans.Tops of mountains.On the sea floor,under ice shelves.
PS The British will have official,Australian meteorological records,from the initial time of colonialism.Along with ship's records of air,water temperatures,and ocean currents.As well as declassified,cold war, naval,submarine records which recorded the entire water column,from operational deep depths, up to the surface.
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That's a lie and easy to debunk.
If they had accounted for urban heat island effect then why does the new data set drop hundreds of temperature stations and only using 114 that are located in remote areas?
Oh a large portion of the sea temperature data like what was used in the "oceans and cryosphere report" has been thrown out too. Or retracted in nature which seems to be worse.
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01-22-2020, 09:13 PM
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In the 1970s I rented rooms to tree planters. When they came home from work at night they were very, very quiet. But their clothes were shredded.
That scene went away when the Federal contracts dried up. But what with 'kids these days', a better solution that crawling on hillsides with a Hoedad, would be tree-planting drones.
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01-23-2020, 02:10 PM
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Grasslands hold more carbon per acre than forests. Grass is 80% root and trees are 50%. Grass roots are incredibly dense, and they go down as far as 40'-50'.
There are more grasslands on the planet than there are forests.
Grass grows much faster than trees. (Bamboo is a grass, by the way.)
When grass is grazed, it abandons a proportional amount of roots, and it then regrows new roots, in that 80/20 proportion. This PUMPS a massive amount of carbon into the soil.
If we restored all the native grasslands around the world, and we managed them in a way that mimics the large herds of herbivores that used to be there - we could have the atmosphere back BELOW 350ppm in LESS THAN A DECADE.
Cows could SAVE the climate.
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01-23-2020, 03:51 PM
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The appropriate comparison between hemp and bamboo will be in here: duckduckgo.com/?q=hemp+vs+bamboo+for+carbon+capture, but the first result is comparing fabrics instead of carbon capture.
Either will be 'faster' than trees. No cows required.
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01-23-2020, 04:37 PM
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Grasslands hold more carbon per acre than forests. Grass is 80% root and trees are 50%. Grass roots are incredibly dense, and they go down as far as 40'-50'.
There are more grasslands on the planet than there are forests.
Grass grows much faster than trees. (Bamboo is a grass, by the way.)
When grass is grazed, it abandons a proportional amount of roots, and it then regrows new roots, in that 80/20 proportion. This PUMPS a massive amount of carbon into the soil.
If we restored all the native grasslands around the world, and we managed them in a way that mimics the large herds of herbivores that used to be there - we could have the atmosphere back BELOW 350ppm in LESS THAN A DECADE.
Cows could SAVE the climate.
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Thought it was settled science. 2 years ago cows were destroying the climate.
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01-23-2020, 05:08 PM
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in a way that mimics the large herds of herbivores that used to be there
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Turn grass into poop and trample it underfoot? Why not use real herbivores?
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2 years ago cows were destroying the climate.
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Sheep belch methane too.
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01-25-2020, 03:03 AM
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part review
part criticism part correction part
progress and part outlook we're about to
be caught up on the science and societal
posturing as we enter the new era of
solar forcing climatology
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01-25-2020, 09:53 AM
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Rather than burying grass etc. better ferment / distill the hell out of it to produce gas and fluids to replace gas and oil products from non-renewable sources.
Bury whatever is left over after that.
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01-25-2020, 01:51 PM
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This is what herd animals do:
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Rather than burying grass etc. better [digest] the hell out of it to produce [meat and leather].
Bury whatever is left over after that.
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