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Old 01-07-2020, 07:09 PM   #8121 (permalink)
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In another thread I commented on how I used to have to scrape ice off the windshield in the morning (in the 1960s) but now it rarely freezes. So should I believe in AGW? I think I'll follow the science. That says we're headed into increasing Chaos for whatever reason. So we should expect more of what we get; in this case more temperate. At least until the Cascadia Subduction Zone subducts.

As for grabbing the economic tiller and steering the whole thing into a ditch, let's not.

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Old 01-08-2020, 12:09 AM   #8122 (permalink)
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...stralia-fires/

We have already had 3 freezes, and we will have a 3rd thaw this weekend, with temperatures 60F+.

Our building code requires footings to be a minimum of 4' below grade. With a thaw every week or two, only the top few inches will freeze.

We used to sell ice around the world and harvest ice several times a winter, and play ice hockey and ice fish - none of that is going to happen, now.
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We have already had 3 freezes, and we will have a 3rd thaw this weekend, with temperatures 60F+.

Our building code requires footings to be a minimum of 4' below grade. With a thaw every week or two, only the top few inches will freeze.

We used to sell ice around the world and harvest ice several times a winter, and play ice hockey and ice fish - none of that is going to happen, now.
With almost all the major fires burning down under being set by people doesn't that eliminate climate change as a suspect?

The MA climate from the good old days sounds awful.
So what's the bad news?
Don't worry in a few thousand years where you stand right now will be under hundreds of feet of ice.
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Old 01-08-2020, 11:27 AM   #8125 (permalink)
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It looks like scientists can detect air pressure changes at ground level at the poles in unison with the solar wind, lag time about 10 minutes.
So yeah the idea that "solar wind doesn't effect ground level" is so dead it's sad. Scientists knew this in the 60s, but some how it was forgotten, probably after they went to woodstock. The whole presumption that props up human driven climate change is that the suns output doesn't change, external influences can't effect the weather or climate, the earth is flat and the everything rotates around us, along with other nonsense. Anyone who says otherwise will be burned at the stake.
Soon man driven climate change will be just as dead.
I think they have always known this, otherwise they wouldn't be so hypocritical and hostile.
Yep,it's been long understood that,striking a vacuum will telegraph an intense pressure spike in a fully-compressible medium,all the way to the planet's surface.We'd hear it,if not for the fact that God tuned our ears such that they cannot detect the constant supersonic shockwaves coming through the atmosphere.
That's why all space craft immediately burn up in space,due to the skin friction up there.If you've ever seen crews returning to Earth,that's all faked.No one's ever been to space.It can't be done because of the solar wind.
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Well it looks like the unstable polar vortex has been once and for all linked to solar minimum.
The only people blaming "man made climate change" are how can I put this a nice way, uneducated and maybe even a little crazy.
As they like to say it's settled science.
It's unfortunate that scientists do not fully understand the polar night jet,however,they do believe that global warming produces more energetic Rossby-Waves which propagate upwards above the troposphere,affecting the jets stability,and the Jet Stream's stability as a byproduct.
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I'm sure glad that there's 100% consensus on the number of arsonists responsible for setting Australian bush-fires.Twenty-four have been arrested by police,although others report 180,and 200.'New Math' Australian-style!
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Yes they use a report from 1996 that looked at 1 wavelength of UV who's output doesn't change. Thank aerohead for finding that report, he was so determined to prove that sun's output is fixed, he also exposed that's what the climate scientists were using all along. Opps.
The 2022 ipcc report will be the first to include outside influences.
Climate scientists have worked under the wrong assumption that the sun's output doesn't change and solar wind or cosmic particles can not effect weather or climate.
Times are a changing.
You probably don't want to put words in my mouth.See an eye doctor,or have that Asberger's Syndrome looked at.
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Yep,it's been long understood that,striking a vacuum will telegraph an intense pressure spike in a fully-compressible medium,all the way to the planet's surface.We'd hear it,if not for the fact that God tuned our ears such that they cannot detect the constant supersonic shockwaves coming through the atmosphere.
That's why all space craft immediately burn up in space,due to the skin friction up there.If you've ever seen crews returning to Earth,that's all faked.No one's ever been to space.It can't be done because of the solar wind.
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You probably don't want to put words in my mouth.See an eye doctor,or have that Asberger's Syndrome looked at.
Search for someone else to mischaracterize.I'll have you thrown off EcoModder.
Not my fault I read what you post and it blows up in your face.
That reminds me can you please post the studies you think prove the solar wind doesn't effect the atmosphere?

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