02-18-2020, 06:33 PM
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Desert have cold at night.
You go nowhere trying to create "logic" using casual temperatures drogs or rise in such places. We need to evaluate the clime, not weather, during a long period and in different places.
It's disonest to use such simplification to argue in favor or against global warming.
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02-18-2020, 06:35 PM
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Not only that, but not even so much as a thank you for the unseasonably pleasant weather.
I'm burning less natural gas this winter due to the mild weather.
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02-18-2020, 07:17 PM
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These cold snaps are part of the overall warming of the planet - the melting Arctic ice is leading to a weakened jet stream, and this in turn is why we are seeing cold temps in some areas - cold Arctic air is "escaping" from the Arctic. And the Arctic ice continues to diminish more and more quickly.
Your data point doesn't challenge what we know about the climate.
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What's your excuse when the solar maximum is back in play and the jet stream stays where it's supposed to be?
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02-18-2020, 07:17 PM
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Desert have cold at night.
You go nowhere trying to create "logic" using casual temperatures drogs or rise in such places. We need to evaluate the clime, not weather, during a long period and in different places.
It's disonest to use such simplification to argue in favor or against global warming.
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Of coarse it’s dishonest...
But then again, that doesn’t matter to fanatics.
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02-19-2020, 08:05 AM
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The weather channel is saying wettest year on record for all over and around MS.
Thought global warming was supposed to suppresse rain fall.
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02-19-2020, 08:45 AM
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It is a bit hard to say Thank you for the nice warm weather when you have to watch the road like a hawk for fallen and falling tree branches blown around by storm Ciara, Dennis or Unnamed 1, 2 or 3.
But I get the drift. We use less heating gas as well. And block the doors in the house so they don't rattle and bang with the wind.
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02-19-2020, 08:48 AM
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Global warming speeds up evaporation by the way.
Warmer seas, more evaporation, more rain.
I can do science, me.
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02-19-2020, 10:25 AM
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Global warming speeds up evaporation by the way.
Warmer seas, more evaporation, more rain.
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It is now that all the "global desertification" predictions have been wrong.
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02-19-2020, 12:22 PM
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Well all this circles back to my point that research is done myopically, focusing only on potential problems with global warming because there are no research funds available for people who research how things will get better. Nobody pays for good news. That means we'll only hear negative stuff.
Perhaps there is a long term net negative for global warming, but we'll never know because the research is so lopsided and probably lacks input from economists and medical doctors.
Then there's always my unanswered question of when did/will global warming switch from being a net benefit to a net harm? The 1 source I found gave an estimate of 70 more years for us to have a net benefit, and after that a slight net negative.
It's Wednesday, so I'll stop here and let aerohead catch up.
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02-19-2020, 12:57 PM
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What's your excuse when the solar maximum is back in play and the jet stream stays where it's supposed to be?
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You are conflating things, again. I seriously doubt your ability to draw scientific conclusions - especially when they are totally different than actual scientists.
Are we at a "solar maximum"? How is that related to below normal temperatures in some areas - or related to melting polar ice?
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