The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I want Idaho to come to me

Idaho eventually comes for all, it's just a matter of how much feces, lawlessness, despair, and decline people are willing to endure until then.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

As time progresses, we may find that what isolates you presently, changes with changes to the Jet Stream, which is highly-dependent upon the Polar Vortex, which 'lives' where the Earth is warming the most rapidly.
Where I live, near Dallas, we've recently been experiencing the Saharan dust storms rolling off the east coast of Africa, where the hurricane embryos also enter the Inter Tropical Convergence Zone ( ITCZ ).
When the Iraqi oil fields were set on ablaze during the Iraq War, smoke from the conflagration was observed over the American Midwest within 27-hours!
The world truly is 'connected.' And what 'is' presently, may no longer 'be' what is in the future.
About ten years ago, the 'general circulation models', climate scientists used to help predict what a 'doubling' of atmospheric greenhouse gases would 'look like', ran to around 3,600-pages of Fortran-10 code.
They work to continually improve the 'math', but it's literally a 'global' challenge.
And it takes a 'Swamp' to pay for.
Be happy you don't live in Ruidoso. Especially on the Mescalero Apache Reservation.

Yes I've noticed how nearly all global warming that happening is taking place where no one lives. How convenient.

[redpoint5]

I'd be over the moon if climate change turned the Sahara desert into the Sahara rain forest.

[Piotrsko]

The Bedouins have a collective memory of the Sahara being full of lakes and lush green. So its only been desert for a short while, comparatively.

Maybe you'll get your wish within your lifetime

[freebeard]

See also: JAMES DEMEO: SAHARASIA

S A H A R A S I A -- James DeMeo, PhD
The 4000 BCE Origins of Child Abuse,
Sex-repression, Warfare and Social Violence,
In the Deserts of the Old World

Evidence for a Worldwide, Climate-Linked Geographical Pattern in Human Behavior

Human Violence is Unnatural. Perpetual War is Not Inevitable. The Human Species is By Nature Loving, Cooperative and Peaceful.

There is a Real Early Peaceful Period in the Archaeological Record.

The Concept of a "Naked Violent Ape" or "Violent Genes" is a Modern Fantasy-Falsehood.

Early Climate Change Towards Saharasian Deserts at c.4000 BCE led to the First Widespread Appearance of Violent Human Societies, who have Favorably Perpetuated Themselves over the Centuries by Conquest of more Peaceful Societies.

That was a case where climate change caused radiating waves of misery, that only end when the steam ship made it global.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Yes I've noticed how nearly all global warming that happening is taking place where no one lives. How convenient.

It's happening where I live. We've had over a hundred days over a 'hundred 'degrees so far this year. It started back in March.
Lucky you !

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

It's happening where I live. We've had over a hundred days over a 'hundred 'degrees so far this year. It started back in March.
Lucky you !

I was hot in south Texas? You don't say.

[freebeard]

Snowing in California, in August. Up in the Sierra Nevada, but still...

Scott Adams today references news from Richard Lindzen and William [somebody] suggesting more CO2 has a non-linear effect. I tried DuckDuckGo and Start Page and couldn't find a reference.

Any idea?

In other news: www.newscientist.com: Part of the Atlantic is cooling at record speed and nobody knows why
"After over a year of record-high global sea temperatures, the equatorial Atlantic is cooling off more quickly than ever recorded, which could impact weather around the world"

Beaufort Gyre, anyone. Northern Europe would be a clean slate. They could build nuclear-heated geodesic domes over the cathedrals.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Snowing in California, in August. Up in the Sierra Nevada, but still...

Scott Adams today references news from Richard Lindzen and William [somebody] suggesting more CO2 has a non-linear effect. I tried DuckDuckGo and Start Page and couldn't find a reference.

Any idea?

In other news: www.newscientist.com: Part of the Atlantic is cooling at record speed and nobody knows why
"After over a year of record-high global sea temperatures, the equatorial Atlantic is cooling off more quickly than ever recorded, which could impact weather around the world"

Beaufort Gyre, anyone. Northern Europe would be a clean slate. They could build nuclear-heated geodesic domes over the cathedrals.

Observers know why.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Scott Adams today references news from Richard Lindzen and William [somebody] suggesting more CO2 has a non-linear effect. I tried DuckDuckGo and Start Page and couldn't find a reference.

Any idea?

I didn't dig deeper, mostly because I believe it's either fake news, or well established news.

If I had to guess, my assumption is the fact that it takes an increasing amount of energy to maintain an increased temperature, not that it has anything to do with a particular property of CO2 concentration. That alone accounts for a non-linear effect.