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Old 07-02-2008, 07:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I have never caused an accident since paying attention to my driving, knock on wood. I've been tagged by other drivers who obviously were not paying attention, but that ain't my fault and thats how the courts see it too. Driving efficiently takes careful attention, and that is usually good for safety too as far as I recon.

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Old 07-02-2008, 07:44 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hmm, I wonder if a post here could be subpoenaed in the case of a criminal or civil trial. Someone admitting driving "unusually" could leave themselves very wide open to much doo-doo.
Who here is posting with their name as their avatar? You are Gary who? from where?
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Old 07-02-2008, 08:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Who here is posting with their name as their avatar? You are Gary who? from where?
No, not me. But if a subpoena was issued asking for my IP, the website complied, and then my ISP had a paper shoved at them asking "Who had this IP on this date and time?" I'd guess my name would be as public as George W Bush's.

I just meant it as a note of caution, that's all.

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Old 07-02-2008, 09:48 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 07-02-2008, 10:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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No, not me. But if a subpoena was issued asking for my IP, the website complied, and then my ISP had a paper shoved at them asking "Who had this IP on this date and time?" I'd guess my name would be as public as George W Bush's.
I just meant it as a note of caution, that's all.
haha - I find that funny. I'm the complete opposite; on my blog you can see my license plate. The only reason I don't post my last name and email address is to avoid horrendous spamming by web crawling programs.

At least my point was made; no accidents thus far and the people on here drive safely, even though some are extremists, none are stupid enough to drive super slow on a freeway.
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Old 07-02-2008, 10:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i'm confused. AAA published an article against cautious/gas conserving driving? don't they give some of the same tips?

I can only imagine people drafting getting into accidents. others driving in the legal speed range "causing" road rage in others. so the road ragers/law breakers are the victims?

what exactly were they talking about?
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Old 07-03-2008, 12:11 AM   #17 (permalink)
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i'm confused. AAA published an article against cautious/gas conserving driving? don't they give some of the same tips?

I can only imagine people drafting getting into accidents. others driving in the legal speed range "causing" road rage in others. so the road ragers/law breakers are the victims?

what exactly were they talking about?
That's basically the issue at hand, and AAA is concerned about things such as engine off coasting and not stopping at reds/stop signs, but the real issue is the conflict between slow drivers and fast drivers, concentrating drivers and incompetent drivers.

Every method of driving the "hypermiling" community supports _IS_ safe to perform the issue comes in when you add people with different driving styles to the mix. If you are performing your safe engine off coast when an SUV cuts into your lane and loses control/flips the vehicle the ability to react is decreased, or if somebody in front of you slams on their brakes cause they missed a turn, without power steering most people wouldn't be able to swerve around.

I don't believe power brakes should really come into the argument as it's pretty much known you have solid braking power in _MOST_ situations where you would be eoc'ing due to DWB and just not keeping your engine off for a long enough time to run out of booster.

So basically the question is has any of the above behavior caused an accident, in all the news and AAA statement I have not seen one single fact or number saying "Hypermiling, the new speeding, this year more deaths from driving slow with the engine off then caused by cell phones while driving". The day I see that proof I might consider what the group has to say but until then I don't see my slowpoking causing an accident that is _MY_ fault.

Ok, down off my soap box.
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I have noticed that my Hypermiling has a negative effect on Fuel Economy. Not my FE, but all those people in SUVs mashing their gas pedals to pass me while doing 55 in 55 zone because most of the drivers around here think that the minimum speed limit is 10 MPH over the posted limit, and if you aren't going at least 10 over then you are in the way. I have noticed lately a lot more people following my lead and driving 55. I think they are smart enough or old enough to remember that the old national limit of 55 was implemented to save gas. For the kids who aren't old enough to remember back in the old days the maximum limit in all states was 55MPH. I personally do not advocate lowering the limit back down to 55 because on long trips going that slow ads too much time to the drive.

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Man, all the old folks must have got their checks on Monday, because the wife and I went into town for a few things and there were "hypermilers" everywhere

They were going so slow even I was getting upset! I was yelling at the wife saying........

"I can't even shift out of 1st gear or I'll rear end this old dude."

I was then reminded of the South Park episode when all the old people had a town meeting..................

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