Ecomodding an automatic '04 Civic Sedan

[California98Civic]

Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy

I'm getting the NXDOMAIN error on Google Chrome opening it, which means that the download website is no longer in existence.

It is not working for me either. I tried Chrome and Explorer.

[California98Civic]

i got throuh this time andnwas treated to random popups threatening that I am violating copyright, that a competent US court says so, and then was asked for usernames and passwords... I recommend avoiding.

Xist, did you use this site for a download? How long ago?

[California98Civic]

oh, snap. It has been so long I forgot that I have two versions of the 7th Gen Civic FSM from when I was collecting data for the manual transmission specs thread. One is a 2.8 meg pdf for the 2002-2003 Hatch EP3 USDM and the other one seems messed up. Zipped files that seem to be non-functioning.

PM me an email address and I will email you the PDF one. It looks quite complete.

[Xist]

I believe that I have downloaded FSMs from other sites, but that was a sticky in those forums.

[westb87]

Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy

The fuel tank is 12 gallons used right on E (1.2 mile reserve). One tick past halfway is 11/20 marks, so theoretically you've used 6.6 gallons. 290 miles on 6.6 gallons is 43.9 mpg. However this estimate is generally 1-1.5 mpg optimistic for me at fill up.

I'll take it! Anything over 40 is my goal...for now.

Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy

Get going on your Scangauge!!

I'm working on it! I'm running this tank down so I can get as close as possible to the correct calibration when I DO fill up.

Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy

I haven't run any fuel system cleaner in the Civic yet. Most people I've seen do it haven't noticed any benefit for the cost.

I'd do it just to make sure your fuel system, injectors, and combustion chamber are clean. I can't verify that it'll also help to clean your catalytic converter, but I've heard that it does help those with Civics prone to the problem. I'm in the camp of "it can't hurt anything other than my wallet and may help in the long run...I'll give it a shot"

Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy

Still getting comments on my car's ecomods...one of my classmates laughed at the idea (he gets 10-15 mpg out of an '07 Saturn Vue) but my response is always that I'll be the one with money in my wallet at the end of the day.

One thing I've learned about classmates...they're all morons...at least until you get to the graduate level (I have a Master's)...then only half to a quarter of them are morons. Don't listen to anything any of them say. 90% of them will take that diploma/degree and do nothing with it. Most spend their spare time drinking or smoking pot.
Family and friends matter. Your dad even HELPS you with your eco-mods. That's a win in my book! Not to mention, your part about being the one with the fat wallet at the end of the day is AWESOME! Keep rockin' dude!

[mpg_numbers_guy]

Originally Posted by 19bonestock88

You’ll always have folks poking fun at your ecomods, but you won’t spend nearly as much as them in fuel... I had a co worker recently advise me that he would just “be happy to get 30”, and that’s cute IMO... only in severe cold, with a misfiring cylinder, did I ever drop below 30mpg lol...(like 25-27)

Still get a kick out of that one post I read while doing my daily browse of ancient ecomodder threads about this one guy at a family reunion whose sister in law or something was bragging about 36 mpg in a Prius, made fun of him for is Gen 1 Insight, asking him what kind of mpg he got, and then was silenced since he was getting like twice the mpg or something like that lol.

I don't get how some people can drive so inefficiently.

Originally Posted by California98Civic

i got throuh this time andnwas treated to random popups threatening that I am violating copyright, that a competent US court says so, and then was asked for usernames and passwords... I recommend avoiding.

Good to know.

Originally Posted by California98Civic

oh, snap. It has been so long I forgot that I have two versions of the 7th Gen Civic FSM from when I was collecting data for the manual transmission specs thread. One is a 2.8 meg pdf for the 2002-2003 Hatch EP3 USDM and the other one seems messed up. Zipped files that seem to be non-functioning.

PM me an email address and I will email you the PDF one. It looks quite complete.

I'll see if I can figure out the PMing thing on here since I couldn't figure it out last time and send you a PM.

Originally Posted by westb87

I'll take it! Anything over 40 is my goal...for now.

I want to see that next fuel log entry of yours read over 40 mpg US!

Originally Posted by westb87

I'm working on it! I'm running this tank down so I can get as close as possible to the correct calibration when I DO fill up.

One thing I've noticed over my last two tanks is that the low fuel light comes on when you have about 80 miles left of range. It doesn't seem to go by fuel amount for some reason. On my last tank (42.5 mpg) I used almost half a gallon more fuel than my previous tank (37.0 mpg) before the light came on.

Originally Posted by westb87

I'd do it just to make sure your fuel system, injectors, and combustion chamber are clean. I can't verify that it'll also help to clean your catalytic converter, but I've heard that it does help those with Civics prone to the problem. I'm in the camp of "it can't hurt anything other than my wallet and may help in the long run...I'll give it a shot"

Ehhh, I might. I have a hard time spending money unless I see a quantitative ROI.

Originally Posted by westb87

One thing I've learned about classmates...they're all morons...

Too true lol.

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Right now I'm trying to find a way to do wheel skirts. Mounting is the thing and I'm not going to drill. Considering something like MetroMPG's setup on his Firefly but not sure now to go about making the brackets for it.

I feel like wheel skirts are a standard "fuel efficiency" logo, and will help explain away some of the comments I get...not that I mind anyway.

But of course FE increase would be the main goal of such a mod.

[19bonestock88]

What I did was bend some 3/4” steel strapping material into a shape resembling a capital U with an upside down L and attach it to the fender lip with JB Weld(semi permanent) and still a 5/16” hole in the tab it creates... attach the wheel skirt to it with a 1/4” nylon rivet

[Xist]

Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy

Still get a kick out of that one post I read while doing my daily browse of ancient ecomodder threads about this one guy at a family reunion whose sister in law or something was bragging about 36 mpg in a Prius, made fun of him for is Gen 1 Insight, asking him what kind of mpg he got, and then was silenced since he was getting like twice the mpg or something like that lol.

You found that?! Will you please link the post?

[mpg_numbers_guy]

Originally Posted by 19bonestock88

What I did was bend some 3/4” steel strapping material into a shape resembling a capital U with an upside down L and attach it to the fender lip with JB Weld(semi permanent) and still a 5/16” hole in the tab it creates... attach the wheel skirt to it with a 1/4” nylon rivet

Ease of removal is key though. I don't want to have to weld or drill, and there doesn't really seem to be any other way.

Originally Posted by Xist

You found that?! Will you please link the post?

I'll have to try to find it again. It was a while back so I don't remember exactly which thread it was on.

[Xist]

It was not just me mentioning the story here? http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post567585 H-Man asked someone to find the story and I couldn't.