09-13-2014, 10:15 AM
|
#641 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Maynard, MA Eaarth
Posts: 7,907
Thanks: 3,475
Thanked 2,950 Times in 1,844 Posts
|
If you want to succeed, then you have to take a chance. Elio is taking a chance.
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
09-15-2014, 06:32 PM
|
#642 (permalink)
|
MP$
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 595
Thanks: 5
Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts
|
There may be ATV drive trains big enough to power the Elio. Both gas and diesel. And they might not have a conflict of interest.
Last edited by diesel_john; 09-15-2014 at 06:38 PM..
Reason: clear um fi
|
|
|
09-17-2014, 04:21 PM
|
#643 (permalink)
|
OCD Master EcoModder
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Eastern CT, USA
Posts: 1,936
Thanks: 431
Thanked 396 Times in 264 Posts
|
Paul Elio has said, 'you have to go big or go home'. That is, they feel they need large production numbers. Can't make it on a smallish quantity, and hoping to grow large from that level.
I think the need for many tens of thousands of lightweight and efficient engines, at low cost, is what primarily drove the decision to build their own engine. After reading everything here on the topic, I have to grant that it could prove out to be a mistaken decision. But I do understand the decision. I think they'd never get the performance and price they need and want, from an outsourced engine.
__________________
Coast long and prosper.
Driving '00 Honda Insight, acquired Feb 2016.
|
|
|
10-08-2014, 06:44 PM
|
#644 (permalink)
|
PSmodder lurker
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chino
Posts: 1,605
Thanks: 26
Thanked 908 Times in 522 Posts
|
|
|
|
10-08-2014, 09:35 PM
|
#645 (permalink)
|
home of the odd vehicles
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 3,891
Thanks: 506
Thanked 867 Times in 654 Posts
|
You can have it both ways but Elio only wants it one way, big.
I would have far more trust if he was offering any product to start, even god forbid a kit that makes your geo metro into an elio. I do not think the kit market would compete in the same market as his eventual car, thus I do not think it would result in any sales lost.
Next year, next year, next year.
I wish him luck but next year is always a year away.
|
|
|
10-08-2014, 10:19 PM
|
#646 (permalink)
|
(:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
|
Coulda shoulda woulda will. Where have I heard this before? Aptera? Zaptera? Fisker? Coda? Corbin? Lit? Zoleco? Gogebic XP? Green Vehicles from Salinas, CA? ZAP? .......
I wonder how much investor $$$$ has disappeared so far...
|
|
|
10-08-2014, 11:49 PM
|
#647 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Santa Cruz, CA.
Posts: 871
White Whale - '03 Chrysler Town & Country mini van all white
Thanks: 69
Thanked 44 Times in 39 Posts
|
4+ years ago my place was red tagged, torn down, removed. Elio was exciting news then. Sitting around for a rebuild was a long time to wait. And a long time to set my life priorities. The Elio is not as exciting to me now. I moved back into a rebuilt home 4 months ago, but 3-wheel vehicle options have almost gone nowhere since 2010 (even shrank actually). Very sad things take so long. Long enough to be a mind changer when it comes down to wanting an Elio in my garage.
|
|
|
10-09-2014, 01:17 AM
|
#648 (permalink)
|
Not Doug
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,232
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,231 Times in 1,721 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Lee
Coulda shoulda woulda will. Where have I heard this before? Aptera? Zaptera? Fisker? Coda? Corbin? Lit? Zoleco? Gogebic XP? Green Vehicles from Salinas, CA? ZAP? .......
I wonder how much investor $$$$ has disappeared so far...
|
What about The Dale?
Gas 2 | Bridging the gap between green heads and gear heads.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Xist For This Useful Post:
|
|
10-09-2014, 02:07 AM
|
#649 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Elmira, NY
Posts: 1,789
Thanks: 320
Thanked 357 Times in 298 Posts
|
If rattlesnakes weren't a protected species we could catch them and process the oil. Instead they are selling emu oil for aches and pains. Here in Upstate NY a local plant produces drivetrain parts for Polaris ATVs. We have hundreds of former aircraft workers to build uni-bodies from aluminum in empty buildings. You don't do 200,000 units overnight. How many companies started as small specialty outfits? What are the demographics of potential buyers? Design a product people need and want that is a significant improvement over what is available. Vehicles are about convenience and lifestyle choices. There is a reason why mini-vans and Corollas are so popular. The streamlined e-bike may soon join the list as a cost effective commuter/recreational vehicle especially as more bus lines add bike racks to the buses. The three wheeled motorcycle/car concept keeps coming up but never seems to take hold, much like the flying car. A safe, warm, and comfortable scooter that gets 150 mpg makes the trikes obsolete.
|
|
|
10-09-2014, 03:01 AM
|
#650 (permalink)
|
(:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
|
Yes, and the Dale.
Oh yeah, and Pelmear's hp2g hoaxes.
Quote:
A safe, warm, and comfortable scooter that gets 150 mpg makes the trikes obsolete.
|
Until it snows.
Last edited by Frank Lee; 10-09-2014 at 03:16 AM..
|
|
|
|