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Old 07-18-2011, 11:24 PM   #41 (permalink)
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If this has not already been mention in the thread: Ford will be selling the 3 cylinder Fiesta to the USA:

Three-Cylinder Ford Fiesta Coming To U.S.: Report
A link late in that article takes you to this piece on even more remarkable small engines in the concept and prototype stages: Big Mileage Gains From Really, Really Small Engines

Wow. Almost makes me want a new car in a few years.

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Old 07-19-2011, 04:54 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I suspect we may get a focus or at least a 'MAX' version (MPV) of the Fester with the engine.

3 Cylinders are good - George sounds like a Porsche when pushed hard...
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This is great news. The Fiesta is already a great little car, but a little more thirsty than it could be. An Ecoboost 1.0 3-cyl will answer half the problem. The other half is the gears. If they get it running less then the current 2700 rpm @ 60 mph, it would use less gas. The current 1.6 5-speed is good for 65 mpg on the highway, but only if you do maximum P&G driving. Better gears would make that number possible with less work.
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1.4 TDCI already beats that. I read somewhere that a 1.2 3cyl TDCI (Diesel) version may come along, although as the Diesel engines are shared with PSA I'm not sure how much that was true or Auto Express spouting off - yet again.
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I'm sure the 1.4 TDCI is great, but for this side of the pond it's yet another "look but don't touch" item. Ford has already shown they will offer Ecoboost engines here in the US so there's hope I could actually buy this one.
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:08 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Ford is going to be offering Eco boost options in 90% of its models in the next couple of years.
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Average U.S. miles/vehicle/year = 12,000m/year
@70mpg = 171 gallons; @50mpg = 240 gallons
= 69 gallons more; @ $3.79/g
= $262/yr more
= $21.84/month more
= <$0.73/day more for gas BUT...
how much less will purchase price be?
And will it get more than 50 mpg?
And how much is the benefit of not having a battery bank worth?
And how much is having 4 seats/or that cargo capacity worth?

I agree that Ford is a couple decades behind the curve. They had lots and lots of time to compete with Sprint and Metro.
I bet this car will come in at half the price of a hybrid. If your looking at a lease, that will save over $100 a month. Saving that much money have having a car with great mileage to boot could give cash strapped Americans the freedom to roam once again.

A friend of mine boought the last year of the Metro brand new off the lot in 1999 for less than $9,000 and boy did we have fun with that car! We went to Mt. bike races every weekend. Driving across the state and splitting the gas was so cheap it almost seemed free. We got 45 to 60 mpg fully loaded with 2 bikes on top! With the manual transmission, the power was not bad at all. Gas was about $1.00 at that time and I guess that's why it disapperaed. You could litteraly make a 400 mile day trip on less than $10. It's about time they brough something like that back and I bet it will be fairly quick with the Turbo!
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The F150 ecoboost is a $1000 more than the V8, if I recall what I read correctly. I haven't read anything regarding the 3 cylinder or the 4 cylinder versions, but they will definitely be less than a hybrid. When ever they come out, comparing the Fusion or Escape Hybrids to their regular counterparts will be a great comparison.

I wonder if they'd ever do a hybrid ecoboost combo.
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A promotional video about the Ford 3 cylinder eco-boost engines...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=wmHxiY2J8Ok

EDIT: and here is a media update on the availability of this engine in the US Market. Apparently, Ford has decided to launch it only in Europe, beginning in early 2012. But "ultimately, this all-new engine will be made available in Ford models in North America, China and in other regions."
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Old 11-01-2011, 01:47 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Why not just give up on cylinders all together and just push our cars. Imagine the gas you'll save.

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