Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > The Unicorn Corral
Register Now
 Register Now
 


Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-16-2011, 06:20 AM   #31 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
IamIan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: RI
Posts: 667
Thanks: 367
Thanked 214 Times in 131 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by stovie View Post
see how much hydrogen and oxygen is created,
I think it would be useful ... for your own on going refinements as well as for others ... if you quantified two important things:
  • what is the rate of liquid water consumption in 1 hour.. ideally in grams.
  • how much electrical energy kwh were used in that 1 hour.

I figure it is much easier to measure the consumption of liquid water than to accurately measure the gas production ... and sense we know the balanced chemical formula H20 ... we will have a reasonably accurate estimate of how much hydrogen and how much oxygen was produced given a specific amount of consumed water and consumed electricity.

Quote:
Originally Posted by stovie View Post
on anything else i'd say go with the science but this is something that has to be done personally to be proven.
Experimentation is at the heart of science ... you just need to include some accurate measurements in order to quantify the results... the quantified data is just as important the method of experimentation.

When I have done experiments with electrolysis and Hydrogen ICEs myself ... I found that the quantification was the most useful part... and I found using the weight of consumed water was the easiest way to quantify the amount rate of consumption... and accurate quantification of the volume consumption could also be used ... but I preferred the by weight method myself.

After you get some quantified numbers of the two things you are consuming you will be in a much better position to evaluate any refinements you make ... to see if they improved or reduced the efficiency of the equipment ... just like we need to quantify the number of miles and the number of gallons in order to determine the MPG.

best of luck with measuring your consumption ... be sure to post the results when you have them.

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 02-16-2011, 08:44 AM   #32 (permalink)
MPGuino Supporter
 
t vago's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 1,766

The Karen-Mobile - '05 Dodge Magnum SXT
Team Dodge
90 day: 26.72 mpg (US)

Fiat Dakota - '00 Dodge Dakota SLT RWD Quad Cab
90 day: 16.67 mpg (US)

The Red Sled - '01 Dodge Durango SLT 4WD
90 day: 16.96 mpg (US)
Thanks: 799
Thanked 681 Times in 437 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by stovie View Post
on anything else i'd say go with the science but this is something that has to be done personally to be proven i will admit that if your trying to seperate hydrogen and oxygen using electrolysis then ya it's going to take more energy then you'll get back from burning it BUT if you forget about seperating the two then it's easier to make lots of hydrogen and oxygen from it and also you have to have a electrolizer in the water to allow easier power transfer through the water. take like 5 plates put them 1/8 of an inch apart in sequence and put about 1/2 a cup baking soda to 1 gallon destilled water then put power to the outer plates and see how much hydrogen and oxygen is created, i'm sure it's not that much to get 5 plates and test it so you have your own proof weather it works or not. I got my proof and your not going to change my mind cause i've done it first hand!!!!!!!
I think I will fly away on my magical unicorn now...

__________________
The Fiat Dakota


The Karen-mobile


The Red Sled
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Tags
hho, hydrogen, hydroxy

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ronn Motor Company Scorpion uses HHO cfg83 General Efficiency Discussion 26 07-03-2009 10:12 PM
what do you think of hydrogen mods (with video) igo EcoModding Central 18 11-13-2008 01:54 PM
Hydrogen Less than Gas Arminius The Lounge 4 08-03-2008 03:48 PM
Newbee with hydrogen kit mechanic999 EcoModding Central 20 05-27-2008 02:17 AM
GM's new hydrogen car SVOboy Fossil Fuel Free 0 01-08-2008 01:34 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com