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Old 09-08-2008, 03:04 AM   #51 (permalink)
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After getting to the point where I couldn't go to sleep, I started drinking bourbon pretty heavily every night before bedtime, (after drinking only small amounts in the previous 15 years) trying to get enough sedative in my system to put me to sleep....
Another fatal mistake!

Bourbon awakes you from your slumber - it doesn't put you to sleep...

Aspirin is THE wonder drug, but 'they' have brainwashed ppl into thinking it's bad for them.

Anyway, the OP is V wise in NOT going down that path, IMHO!

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Old 09-08-2008, 03:39 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Agreed, alcohol interrupts the sleeping pattern, and Aspirin is essentially a close-to-all-natural analgesic and anti-inflammatory. I take it daily for both the swelling reduction for back problems, and the cardio health aspects.

The problem is, not everyone is ready for non-traditional treatment (or insurance to not cover it).

What works for you may not work for others.

Look man, we know about 10% about how the brain functions -- new frontiers are being forged daily. What we have is a series of compounds to aid in the imbalance of neurotransmitters. "Old School" monoamine oxidase inhibtors are now released as patches, so you don't have dietary restrictions. Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibors (SSRIs) are the most popular (Prozac, Zoloft, etc.) and can help with the synapses' ability to absorb the chemical required for proper brain function and mood.

The 3 main receptors are Serotonin, Norepinephrine, and Dopamine. Depending on the condition and drug of choice, each receptor may be devoid of proper transmission. The medicines generally block the re-uptake in the pre-synapse and allow the post-synapse to absorb the neurotransmitter on a full basis. It could take testing a variety of meds to see what works, and which chemical is in imbalance.

Further, Benzodiazepines allow hypnotic sleep and anxiety control. Caution is
used due to their potential dependence, possibility of tolerance, and withdrawal effects. Still, they offer a valid treatment.

I caution readers to the "Bourbon and Aspirin" treatment.

That's my take.

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Dude, I shouldn't have said anything, but...

That's total B.S.!

What chemicals are out of balance in your brain, and what should the correct balance be?

And, do you *think* anti-depressants and pain killers are really going to correct that imbalance?!?!?

Man, you've bought it hook line n' sinker!

I wish I could drive you around for 4 hours...
And what school did you get your DR.'s degree from? I thought that depression was only people who didn't know how to express their feelings/emotions. Do I fit that catagory!? Seems you're the one getting upset over the matter. I was just stating facts.

I think RH77 summed it up very well and he does have medical training and experience. Opinions are like a-holes everybody has one and they all stink.
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I would recommend seeing a doctor, though since you live in America (not sure what VA in your profile is) i guess that might be pricey. If you have a normal/healthy enough lifestyle and you still have these problems then it might be something, something you don't even know what it is.

I have an illness (since i was 10) that causes excessive fatigue both mental and physical and joint/muscle pain, after any kind of activity that a "normal" person would consider easy enough. Though a lot of the time you don't feel it till the next day, and boy do you feel it, more sleep, healthy diet and activity don't help. The joy that is M.E. or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (i hate that name) to most people. It's just a suggestion, I'm no doctor or expert, just a sufferer.

List of symptoms if you are interested
It does vary greatly between sufferers so some of those in the Other Symptoms might not be applicable.
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I thought that depression was only people who didn't know how to express their feelings/emotions. Do I fit that catagory!? Seems you're the one getting upset over the matter...
Dude, it goes deeper than that, but this isn't a 'white paper'. That's why I rhetorically asked, "Dare I say it?!?!?"

I knew you wouldn't listen - but others might!

It seems that you're totally invested in the system - took the bait hook line n' sinker, and you're running with it. Ever notice that you feel physically and mentally worse off when your 'welfare', so called, is threatened, and better when its been secured a while longer? Ever have to... you know... fake it a little... act sicker than you actually are in order to survive?!?!? If so, you don't want to get better - that's all. You just want to get better at gaming the system. You'll NEVER listen to a person like myself...

All I'm saying is - the OP is wise not to go down that path - no offense to RH77 chosen career of picking the pockets of ppl without hope!

Ppl are basically playback machines - sort of like biological iPods - and an empty iPod is useless!

Everyone has been programmed from birth - first by their mother and later by society - and they live in a perpetual state of hyponosis.

The subconscious mind is MUCH more powerful than the conscious mind. Think about when you first learned how to drive - up/down, left/right, back n' forth, oversteer/understeer, not enough throttle, too much brake, yada, yada, yada. That's your conscious mind at work, and its a kludge!

After a while, your subconscious mind takes control, and it drives your car just fine, thank you, as well as doing a zillion other things at the same time...

Allowing a 'witchdoctor' like myself, or a professional hypnotherapist et cetera, to tinker around with your mind is one thing - it's noninvasive -but rewiring your brain with chemicals (legal and illegal) is a totally different matter, IMHO.

Do what you want - just trying to help. This is just one man's opinion, not my livelihood!

Anyway, have a nice day, my friend...
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i took a look and I don't have any of those symptoms. Yes I live in US (Virginia ) but yea my dad is an entrepreneur so we have crappy health insurance. I've never liked going to the doctor anyways.
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Ankit: You're more than likely dreaming a lot each night - just not able to recall them.

How much time do you spend on the computer? Exercise and diet would be the first thing I'd consider if you are feeling excessively fatigued.


BlackDeuceCoupe: Recommending alcohol (itself a liquid drug that is classified as a depressant) to depressed people seems a little too much like trying to douse a fire with gasoline. Like RH77, I will totally agree that chemical solution aimed solely at the symptoms may not be as affective as treating the underlying cause, but for some people it's the best way for them to lead productive lives. This tough it and man up about it attitude is what often keeps some people from getting help in the first place and next thing you know they harm themselves which affects many others.
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BlackDeuceCoupe: Like RH77, I will totally agree that chemical solution aimed solely at the symptoms may not be as affective as treating the underlying cause, but for some people it's the best way for them to lead productive lives...
I see!

And, how do you *feel* about that...
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I've never liked going to the doctor anyways.
Smart man, you are...

For the most part, sleeping is a waste of time!

The only mystery is - why do you fain sleep during the day?

I have a hunch that you're hiding something from us - guilty conscience maybe?

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