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Old 07-21-2019, 03:26 PM   #221 (permalink)
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Ouch... I bet alloys would be a nice upgrade

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Old 07-21-2019, 04:41 PM   #222 (permalink)
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Apparently this is for a solar racer. How difficult could it be for a real car?



Pretty difficult!

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Old 07-22-2019, 07:17 PM   #223 (permalink)
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I think the bolt pattern on the Miata is the same as the 4th-7th Gen Honda Civics... 4x100. If that's true, the rims I currently have, 15" MINI 7-hole alloys fit your car. 12 lbs each.
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Old 07-22-2019, 07:44 PM   #224 (permalink)
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I think the bolt pattern on the Miata is the same as the 4th-7th Gen Honda Civics... 4x100. If that's true, the rims I currently have, 15" MINI 7-hole alloys fit your car. 12 lbs each.
Hopefully the hub is the same or larger. I think Toyota uses the same bolt pattern but their hubs are smaller than anyone else's.
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Old 07-22-2019, 08:11 PM   #225 (permalink)
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Hopefully the hub is the same or larger. I think Toyota uses the same bolt pattern but their hubs are smaller than anyone else's.
True. Civic center bore is 56.1mm and these MINI wheels bolt right up. Seems the Miata has 54.1 center bore... needs hub centric rings to adapt the 56.1mm wheel)to the 54.1mm hub. Can be had cheap online (10 or 20 bucks for the set).
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:47 PM   #226 (permalink)
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Hopefully the hub is the same or larger. I think Toyota uses the same bolt pattern but their hubs are smaller than anyone else's.
I wonder how that works out.

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Old 07-23-2019, 04:26 PM   #227 (permalink)
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brake pad return springs

All except one brake pad spring clips were missing from the car. I was hearing & feeling more pad drag than I'd like to when pushing the car in neutral in the driveway.

My local parts shop only had full brake hardware kits at $19 per axle. Overkill! I don't need ALL those parts.

Then I read someone used binder clip springs on their rear pads, so I gave it a go:



With a little tweaking with a pair of pliers to open them up and angle the ends just so, they fit nicely. I also cleaned up & re-greased the caliper slider pins.

Happy with the results!

Fronts next.


Oh, and this is what the OEM front & rear springs look like:





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Old 07-23-2019, 06:33 PM   #228 (permalink)
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I am sure they are popular because they look like those emojos all of the cool kids use.

I do not believe you are supposed to use return springs on Civics.
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Old 07-24-2019, 12:47 PM   #229 (permalink)
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^ another Big Oil conspiracy! Fight the power!



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Last night I looked at adapting binder clips as return springs for the front brake pads, but they're a lot more convoluted (literally) than the rear springs. And much tighter clearance issues. Not an easy task.



So I ended up ordering a hardware kit for the front. It's $19 that I will never get back in a decade of hypothetical fuel savings, but it comes with new slider pins and bushings that are in poor shape on the car. Two birds, one $19 stone.
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Old 07-24-2019, 01:59 PM   #230 (permalink)
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Then I read someone used binder clip springs on their rear pads, so I gave it a go:
Now that's ecomodding!

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