Nissan Leaf

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard

The 2025 battery costs about $2-3.

Well, as with gas vs EV, the issue isn't the money, it's the waste going into landfills. Frankly, I can't see buying non-rechargable batteries.

Some RFID items are "passive", but the keys for many new cars are not passive - but they are RFID.

It's possible that they have passive RFID plus active components like remote unlocking that require a battery - another thing I just don't understand the why of. The Insight has remote unlocking, but I've never used it in the dozen years I've owned it, and am not even sure I could find the remode doohicky any more.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by gumby79

You have to consider that in today's society (this groop is an exception) most would have to have the car towed to a dealership to have a key battery problem resolved.

The Prius has a mechanical key inside the electronic keyfob to unlock the doors. Then it has passive RFID that works by holding the fob near the start button. A battery failure won't ever prevent entry into the vehicle or keep the car from starting.

Originally Posted by jamesqf

Well, as with gas vs EV, the issue isn't the money, it's the waste going into landfills. Frankly, I can't see buying non-rechargable batteries.

The waste is miniscule, and recycling is possible.

[NeilBlanchard]

Both the Leaf key and the e-Golf key has an integrated mechanical key. Using them is not obvious or easy, though.

Is there a rechargeable 2025 battery cell?

[ME_Andy]

We got our Chargepoint card today and drove to a Whole Foods to top off... for free. This can't continue for long, can it? I mean, the way businesses offer free charging.

Actually we only pulled about 30c of electricity from them, so it was a good way to lure us in. We'll be using these free charging stations more because we need to to reach San Antonio.

We also shifted about, maybe, 100 miles of driving from my gasser to the Leaf over the past week.

[ME_Andy]

Austin has about 344 charging stations, with about 300 being free. San Antonio is a little behind with only about 100 free stations.

https://na.chargepoint.com/charge_point

[Erasmo]

Originally Posted by ME_Andy

We got our Chargepoint card today and drove to a Whole Foods to top off... for free. This can't continue for long, can it? I mean, the way businesses offer free charging.

Actually we only pulled about 30c of electricity from them, so it was a good way to lure us in. We'll be using these free charging stations more because we need to to reach San Antonio.

We also shifted about, maybe, 100 miles of driving from my gasser to the Leaf over the past week.

I suspect that a lot of businesses will offer free or strongly reduced charging, paying a few cents to lure someone to your store/restaurant is perhaps even one of the cheapest forms of advertising to the relatively rich group of EV owners.

[freebeard]

I stopped at a cafe in some little town in the Coast Range. As I was leaving the guy running the place said something about TNSTAAFL. I replied that the 'Free Wi-Fi' sign out front was what got me in off the highway.

[Erasmo]

If I have the choice between 2 fast food joints on the road and one offers charging I know where I'm lunching that day.

[gumby79]

The chadmo in Battle Mountain 'wa figures they have a captive market . The members only charger is situated between the park-and-ride (car pool parking lot) and a sit down restaurant. The restaurant dusen't even want to share the restroom , at least there is a gas station around the corner.

[ME_Andy]

Speaking of chademo, our leaf doesn't have it. Only 240v level 2. I think it's gonna feel ridiculously outdated in five years.