Rear view camera MANDATE

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by autoteach

How does the weight on the end of the valve stem effect life of said valve stem.

How does the weight of e.g. fancy chromed metal valve caps vs the standard plastic affect the valve stem?

AND, will these serve as a replacement for the factory placement and interface with the factory computer.

Why should they, if you've already got a built-in TPS? The point is, the sensors and transmitters are all pretty much the same, and dirt cheap - or maybe I should say silicon cheap, 'cause they're integrated circuits, and if you can build one, the incremental cost for turning out millions isn't much. So if someone is quoting you hundreds of dollars for replacement, either they're talking labor, or pulling the old "charge way over the market for OEM parts" scam.

...we should be talking about the average consumer.

Why? I prefer not to have my life restricted by the least-common-denominator limitations of the average idiot.

[autoteach]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

How does the weight of e.g. fancy chromed metal valve caps vs the standard plastic affect the valve stem?



Why should they, if you've already got a built-in TPS? The point is, the sensors and transmitters are all pretty much the same, and dirt cheap - or maybe I should say silicon cheap, 'cause they're integrated circuits, and if you can build one, the incremental cost for turning out millions isn't much. So if someone is quoting you hundreds of dollars for replacement, either they're talking labor, or pulling the old "charge way over the market for OEM parts" scam.



Why? I prefer not to have my life restricted by the least-common-denominator limitations of the average idiot.

Well, I am sure that the weight of small chrome caps are not significant. But, go ahead, have your valve stems tear off. I have seen it before, but I know that there will be someone who will argue...

As for the cheap as silicone, sure you can get aftermarket. That is what autozone is. some cars are considerably cheaper, some aren't. I dont think autozone is OEM, but then again you have many options out there like CQ, NAPA, Checker, etc...

WHY? well, the average consumer wouldnt have inflated the tires to 51psi (turning on the light in the first place) and the average consumer wouldnt have coroplast hanging off their car and....It is absolutely fair to pay $150 for the install of the sensor that I was showing. Can I find a brand with cheaper sensors, give me a second...

[autoteach]

Airaware/Tire Pressure Monitoring Sensor (20315) | Tire Pressure Monitoring Sensor | 2010 Ford Mustang 6 Cylinders N 4.0L SFI SOHC | AutoZone.com

So, the fair install and pricing would probably be some where in the $85-90. The "I'm not the average consumer" is played out really often in shops and it gets pretty old. Most recent, shimming valves. After 1-2hrs of helping the individuals working on the project to understand the concept, talk them through the steps, get them the right shims and free exchange...we are doing the work for them because they screwed it up. Should we charge them for the time on the phone and in person when they were not the average consumer? We dont, we havent, and probably wont. Is that fair to us? they might be able to do some of their own work some day, but a majority will not be able to do it because most people cant change a tire or check their fluids. Is this right? I dont think so but it is reality.

[Frank Lee]

NHTSA Rules Back Up Cameras Mandatory In New Cars

Well here it is. Enjoy.

[gone-ot]

You cannot legislate Stupidity, but our NHSTA and Congress seem to be working at making it manditory that stupidity is OK and acceptable.

[UltArc]

And how much s*** will get hit on the sides because some moron is staring at their video system? Why use my peripheral vision, checking all around my car, and paying attention, when I can have a small shot of just one area- people never ride bikes down the sidewalk, go jogging, drive their cars down the road. Heck, people aren't dim enough to stare, turn their wheel, and bang into the car next to them.

My best friend has a wife. Her and her family each have a back up camera in their premium cars. Not only has my Mustang been hit by her with the camera going while backing up, but four other accidents have occurred (that I know about) within the past two years.

This is so ridiculous. C'mon son.

[botsapper]

Mandating electro - optical devices, cameras to look back, means - your wish for more aero-efficient SIDE cameras are next!

[SoobieOut]

I would rather just have the sonar sensors in the bumper.
Where I live kids are constantly running behind the cars in parking lots. Families in Utah are large, and parents have trouble keeping track of the kids.

[Frank Lee]

Don't worry- they'll make more.

[TexasCotton]

Originally Posted by autoteach

Well, I am sure that the weight of small chrome caps are not significant. But, go ahead, have your valve stems tear off. I have seen it before, but I know that there will be someone who will argue...

As for the cheap as silicone, sure you can get aftermarket. That is what autozone is. some cars are considerably cheaper, some aren't. I dont think autozone is OEM, but then again you have many options out there like CQ, NAPA, Checker, etc...

WHY? well, the average consumer wouldnt have inflated the tires to 51psi (turning on the light in the first place) and the average consumer wouldnt have coroplast hanging off their car and....It is absolutely fair to pay $150 for the install of the sensor that I was showing. Can I find a brand with cheaper sensors, give me a second...

I am going to wade in here ..... I really do not care for TPMS... although are now mandatory....to me I like too check/inspect my tires regular for any foreign object.....when oem had to install the TPMS the whole system really was horid and sucked...with the stupid dash light ......which does not tell you where something is failed or bad but just that you may have sometin bad.....
too many drivers go around with under inflated and worn tires.....