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Old 04-26-2011, 12:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
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They are vinyl rain gutter with the front cut off. I use the same thing for my air dam.

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Old 04-26-2011, 02:55 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Are those soffit vents that you are using?
no... they're louvers, the kind that's punched trough from a single metal sheet... they have a screw in each corner, but are mostely held in place with tape... not sure they do much or are in the right spot, but they just sit between the radiator and the engine block wich is where i imagine the most air would exit before the tray was on.
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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oops, th9ought you were asking about the side skirts.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I love the photos. Thanks. I need some advice. I removed my prototype spats because they were clearly a net negative. I did not ABA test them. I wonder if they were too large. Mine were 2.5 inches (the space from bumber to the ground being only about seven inches. Would that be too large? Not large enough? Is there a proportional rule I might follow?
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Old 04-26-2011, 07:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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You might be interested in this article where tire spats were evaluated for lift and drag on a Prius. Evidently drag reduction is very sensitive to size, placement, and angle. Make them too large and they can increase both.

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Thanks for that link instarx. I think I saw it once before but had forgotten, and I realize now that I was doing something akin to position number 5 on their list--seems like the worst idea. I'll try again with some other designs.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:56 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I just installed a quick prototype of coroplast fitting these rough demensions and position from your link above:

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270mm x 25mm, covers lower suspension link and tire
Drag 0.277
Front lift 0.038
Rear lift 0.121

My car is significantly different than this prius, but it has some very general similarities. If it feels alright on the road, I'll ABA test it soon.
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I put the factory spatzs on to the underbelly panel in the same location they were in.
the[ underbelly pan is lower than the factory belly pan because of the IMPUL body kit
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Old 04-27-2011, 02:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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wooden ramps held together w/3 inch wood screws
the IMPUL front bumper is too low to use regular ramps so I had to build some.
base is a 2X8 then 3 2X6 the other side was dead on.

But thanks for your concern!!!!

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