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Old 08-23-2012, 02:40 PM   #61 (permalink)
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A brain is a dangerous thing to waste. Driving efficiently does not mean interrupting the flow of traffic, at least to me it does not. Anyone who wants to waste fuel and money, as well as make the cost of fuel higher for all of us, is either brainless, or is not using the brain they were born with.
The only people who I slow down when driving (45 MPG) or riding my bike (90 MPG) are idiots looking for a ticket and helping the OPEC cartel which kills American Servicemen.

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Old 08-23-2012, 03:15 PM   #62 (permalink)
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...they are more likely sick of getting stuck behind people that refuse drive the speed of traffic or take forever to get up to speed after a stop.
You know what? Those people urinate me off too. But from my observations, it appears that maybe 1-2% of them are actually trying to save gas. The rest are just terminally stupid - and are usually driving some sort of gas guzzler anyway. I mean, how much intelligence does it take to let off on the gas when the light ahead is red, instead of racing up at full throttle and jamming on the brakes? Or to start going again when the light turns green, rather than waiting to e.g. put the last few dabs of polish on your nails? Or to accelerate to freeway speeds on the ramp, instead of pulling out into the travel lane at 30 mph?
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Old 08-23-2012, 05:04 PM   #63 (permalink)
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This is from my phone.

So 5 minutes ago I was obstructing traffic. You know, P&G between 40 & 35 in a 35 with some clown on my bumper. He pulled out to pass when I was doing 40 and got pulled over.

I was nice and didn't wave.
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"I clocked you doing 48 in a 35. Any reason for the hurry today, sir?"

"No, officer. I was just sick of being stuck behind that slowpoke."

"You mean the guy I clocked doing 40 in a 35?"?
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Old 08-23-2012, 06:40 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Those people urinate me off too.
What you do in your car is none of my business.
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:34 PM   #67 (permalink)
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If you read through the thread its pretty clear there is a bias here against anyone that builds a car for power, there was also a bunch of silly remarks as to why people would send hate mail or whatever to the page. What you quoted from me is not an argument, just saying its more likely that if someone has a problem with someone else doing what they can to improve FE it is likely because they perceive that to mean making a car slow and driving slow. Which is useless and a step backwards in the minds of a lot of people.
Good points. Some on this forum are smug and feel that their interests (ecomodding) are more important than other interests. Some on here are even misguided thinking that slow acceleration is beneficial to fuel economy, and that no doubt angers people.

What we really have is many differing ideas about how to live well. Some of these ideas may be better than others, but the goal of living well is shared by everyone.

The person who visits this site, reads through a few posts, and then still comes to the conclusion that it's all vanity has at least done more than the average person to educate themselves.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:09 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Ok so having read through this thread it seem people are way off base. I'm here because I want to be, I have no disrespect for anyone on either side of the matter. I would find it far more likely the haters don't disagree one bit about people wanting to get better mpg, they are more likely sick of getting stuck behind people that refuse drive the speed of traffic or take forever to get up to speed after a stop. I know it drives me insane, at $40/hr time is money and I have places to be regardless of what that means in fuel costs. But that does not mean I'm not interested in saving some money either.
This assumes that every time you drive, you are eating into time when you otherwise would have been making $40/hr. Simply replace that valuable time with the cheap time you would have spent in front of the TV (I assume you aren't being paid for that), or time you would have spent lingering after a meal, or the time you wasted sleeping past your alarm, and use that when you're "stuck behind people that refuse to drive the speed of traffic" instead of your $40/hr time. Problem solved.

By the way, rounding up to the nearest minute, that will be $3.30 please, for wasting my time.
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This assumes that every time you drive, you are eating into time when you otherwise would have been making $40/hr.
No, it doesn't assume that. It means that a person values their time at least as much as the rate they are paid while at work.

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Simply replace that valuable time with the cheap time you would have spent in front of the TV (I assume you aren't being paid for that), or time you would have spent lingering after a meal, or the time you wasted sleeping past your alarm, and use that when you're "stuck behind people that refuse to drive the speed of traffic" instead of your $40/hr time. Problem solved.
Most people value that time doing "nothing" at a higher rate than they are paid. That is why they have to be paid overtime to work more hours per week. The less free time one has, the more valuable it becomes.

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By the way, rounding up to the nearest minute, that will be $3.30 please, for wasting my time.
Your choice on how you spend your time. Your comments have been more "wasteful", so perhaps you owe others?
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No, it doesn't assume that. It means that a person values their time at least as much as the rate they are paid while at work.
Who does that? I've had decades to think of it and it never crossed my mind before. "Hmmm, if I sit around and watch football, that is $75 worth of my time. If I linger on the throne or in the shower for x minutes, that is $x worth"...

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