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Old 01-14-2019, 06:00 PM   #841 (permalink)
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Why Bluetooth speakers? If you're putting them in a car, it seems perfectly reasonable (and cheaper) to run wires.
Bluetooth is a must have for me. I use my phone for audio and navigation and want them wirelessly synced to the carís audio system. Until Apple CarPlay or Android Auto simply mirror my phones screen they arenít much use.

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Agreed. Built in nav solutions including CarPlay and Android Auto are not up to the same level as phone apps. I prefer to use Waze for most navigation since it contains useful information such as road hazards including police locations (yes, I consider patrol to be a highway safety hazard).

I just want the car to wirelessly connect calling functions and play whatever audio output my phone makes on the speakers.

Bluetooth is dirt cheap these days. We're talking a couple bucks.

I'm looking forward to freebeard finally getting his wheels.
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:34 PM   #843 (permalink)
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If I am driving, I do not want to look at my phone, and having my radio mirroring the phone does not improve anything for me.

Who always complains about touchscreens in cars?

Then again, I still use a corded hands-free, by amputating an earbud: https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...ree-32908.html
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I thought I'd never have use for wireless earbuds since a shorter wire didn't seem useful to me, but I find it extremely convenient to not have the wire snagging on tools while I work outside, for instance. When I need to hear my surroundings, I just put 1 bud in, and magnetically attach the extra one to the back of the one in my ear. Probably looks stupid, but it works very well. Anyhow, worth the $15 to me.
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If I am driving, I do not want to look at my phone, and having my radio mirroring the phone does not improve anything for me.

Who always complains about touchscreens in cars?

Then again, I still use a corded hands-free, by amputating an earbud: https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...ree-32908.html
I complain about touchscreens in cars. They are a poor interface, especially when manufacturers use them for things like HVAC that are much better left to simple knobs. (Or in the case of Tesla - controlling wiper speeds and vent directions, etc, etc)

However, for the life of me I don't see how to select which podcast I want to listen to without a touchscreen. (voice control isn't there yet)

CarPlay fails because it still requires a touchscreen, but changes the location of the icons and changes the controls within each app. I don't see any reason to learn a new interface so I can touch the screen in the car instead of the screen on my phone.

So that leaves me with my phone attached to a vent by a magnet and playing through the car's audio via Bluetooth.
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I certainly have no control over the rabbit holes this thread (about the Tesla Model 3) goes down, but my point was about Minimum Viable Product as a design philosophy.

Anyways, Bluetooth is cheap and it's a standard, like the 1/8th inch audio jack. That your new phone doesn't have.

If my (and repoint5's (thanx)) dream comes true, before venturing onto I-5 I'd want to have a motorcycle helmet with Bluetooth, rear-view video and a dashcam built into it. So the built-in speakers don't mean much to me. Of course, the cars I do have don't have radios so I can hear the engine sing, or sounds of impending doom. I might miss that.
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Of course, the cars I do have don't have radios so I can hear the engine sing, or sounds of impending doom. I might miss that.
I've had the stereo and speakers ripped out of my car for ~6 months now. I won't go back.
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I thought it was hilarious when someone stole my $40 stereo. It was garbage!
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Jamesqf, there are other EV's out there if you are serious about really buying one. If you want a stripped car there are used MiEV's out there for as little as 6 grand.
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The Tesla Model 3 will be the best selling car very soon - within the next year. And when they come out with the standard model, it will sell even better.

And then, the Model Y is very likely to sell even better than the Model 3.

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