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Old 02-12-2019, 11:40 AM   #171 (permalink)
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I don't see where you lose much weight in a conversion. Motor & engine were within 50 lbs of each other, added a 40 lb controller, lost maybe 30 lbs in exhaust. Battery pack is 400lbs, add another 30lbs maintaining hardware.

$2500 for my FLA pack 10 trojan (SSC125?), 6 oddball marine, 980 lbs of lead plastic and acid. Probably cycled it 400 times in 3 years, wasn't a lot of fun when cold but then again neither is the volt pack.

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Old 02-12-2019, 12:58 PM   #172 (permalink)
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LOL.

This is exactly what I'm thinking every time Alldarc posts on here. Kinda like that whole thread with dozens of posts never existed.
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I'm sympathetic. He's coming from a dark place, but he's trying to be part of something uplifting.
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:27 PM   #174 (permalink)
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I'd rather try a Diesel
Better be quick then
The diesel market for passenger cars in Europe is crashing hard
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:39 PM   #175 (permalink)
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EV cost few per mile (they say), if we calculate energy price vs gasoline price.
German car club ADAC calculated the lowest price / km for an EV as 0.38 €/km
for VW's e-up!

https://www.adac.de/rund-ums-fahrzeu...stenvergleich/


I'm currently driving the GasDwarf / my VW up! on CNG for less than half that price @ 0.17 €/km
That's on a projected 10 year usage.

Electricity here would be a lot more expensive than in Germany , too.
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The diesel market for passenger cars in Europe is crashing hard
The US has great gas and diesel prices but yesterday I looked up nationwide average prices on AAA and found diesel is $2.92/gal and unleaded is $2.27/gallon. I was looking at what the best MPG highway AWD you could buy and it was a BMW 328d Xdrive. But because of that diesel price premium, the simple Subaru Impreza is really better at a cost per mile calculation. The question for me would be is the $.65 difference the new norm, or is it the 28% price difference the new norm? Because when we get back to $5 gas, will diesel be $5.65 or $6.43?
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The US has great gas and diesel prices but yesterday I looked up nationwide average prices on AAA and found diesel is $2.92/gal and unleaded is $2.27/gallon. I was looking at what the best MPG highway AWD you could buy and it was a BMW 328d Xdrive. But because of that diesel price premium, the simple Subaru Impreza is really better at a cost per mile calculation. The question for me would be is the $.65 difference the new norm, or is it the 28% price difference the new norm? Because when we get back to $5 gas, will diesel be $5.65 or $6.43?
Yeah its bad. Thats why I don't understand the new "I wanna buy a diesel post."
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Gas is $1.929
Diesel is $2.899
Feel bad for those diesel Jetta guys right now. That 50 mpg highway right now must feel like 33 mpg.
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Rul here is $2.89 diesel is $3.24.

The price sucks, but the performance premium on our diesel golf is vastly greater than my daughters kia hotrod since she is only getting 20mpg, same as the F250 @ 4ton. Waiting 10 seconds to get to 65 mph on a short on ramp in the snow will get you ran over by an idiot in a ram pickup.
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I ignore market fluctuations and fuel taxes, and just work on minimizing my impact based on constant factors.
I don't hear of many cars being hit from behind while accelerating, but if it is a concern, you might write "Drive here to save money" on the back. I've also considered "Saving something for your kids."
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I don't hear of many cars being hit from behind while accelerating, but if it is a concern, you might write "Drive here to save money" on the back. I've also considered "Saving something for your kids."
Fwiw every day there are several rear end collision on an on-ramp 1 mile from my house, some caused by continuing acceleration into stopped traffic. The ones that spin out and hit the center retaining wall may be accelerating at time of impact.
(Wells ave eastbound I 80)

Not sure the locals would understand your comments except to consider it a personalized affront to their ego

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