To Wheel Or Not To Wheel ?

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

What about this Peugeot 504 converted into a tricycle in Syria due to lower taxes? Unfortunately here in Brazil a trike would be liable to a higher DPVAT (insurance for accident victims, not material damage) since it's legally considered more related to a motorcycle...


But anyway, once I got too drunk that I started lurking about doing something similar using the bodyshell of a 2nd-generation S10 Blazer and some small tractor engine (most likely a 1.3L air-cooled inline-twin boat-anchor designed by Hatz and made under license by Agrale).

[All Darc]

Is this considered a car on Brazil ?

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

What about this Peugeot 504 converted into a tricycle in Syria due to lower taxes? Unfortunately here in Brazil a trike would be liable to a higher DPVAT (insurance for accident victims, not material damage) since it's legally considered more related to a motorcycle...


But anyway, once I got too drunk that I started lurking about doing something similar using the bodyshell of a 2nd-generation S10 Blazer and some small tractor engine (most likely a 1.3L air-cooled inline-twin boat-anchor designed by Hatz and made under license by Agrale).

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

As long as it's fitted with steering wheel it's legally a car in Brazil. But IIRC artesanal cars are exempt from the airbag and ABS brakes mandate.

[All Darc]

Uhhnn...
What if... if the wheel it's not exactly a wheel ?






Sorry the few humor...

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

As long as it's fitted with steering wheel it's legally a car in Brazil. But IIRC artesanal cars are exempt from the airbag and ABS brakes mandate.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Then you'd definitely need to register it as a trike. And hope the Inmetro inspector agree to consider that as a handlebar with the tips slightly bent...

[freebeard]

How many turn lock-to-lock?

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by freebeard

How many turn lock-to-lock?

Most likely you wouldn't be allowed to do even a complete turn, in order to keep both hands in the "handlebar" all the time (unless it has a shift lever like a typical car instead of the pedal-shifter that you'd expect to find in a motorcycle).

[freebeard]

Handlebars have a ratio of 1:1. If the wheel[s] turn 120° lock-to-lock, a single revolution of a wheel would be a ratio of 3:1.

Ditching the wheel on the Arcimoto shortened the wheelbase, an architectural advantage. Shifting is for people without a single-speed drivertrain.

[All Darc]

Well...

https://youtu.be/V1WbvwQCTvU?t=440


Looked easy... And even looked cool.

Sorry my ignorance. I didn't get how a pedal and a gear tool can change steering wheel rotation in a car.

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

Most likely you wouldn't be allowed to do even a complete turn, in order to keep both hands in the "handlebar" all the time (unless it has a shift lever like a typical car instead of the pedal-shifter that you'd expect to find in a motorcycle).

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by All Darc

Sorry my ignorance. I didn't get how a pedal and a gear tool can change steering wheel rotation in a car.

Something must've been lost in the translation, but anyway, while it's required to keep both hands on the handlebar all the time while riding an actual motorcycle, in a trike you would be allowed to use a regular shifter like in a car. When it comes to change the steering turn ratio, it's up to the steering gearbox. Have you already noticed that some cars often have less turns lock-to-lock when fitted with power steering, while the versions not fitted with this resource have more turns in order to make the steering at least feel lighter?