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Old 09-14-2012, 05:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I was looking around on Google to locate ehtanol free stations in Canada or in my area (Montreal) and I found this post burried in the results!

pure-gas.org was one of the first thing I found but it's kind of vague. Found other forums where they were discussing ethanol free in Canada and found more details.

Turns out all of 91+ octane gas in Canada seems to be ethanol free. Petro-Canada SuperClean 94 (in Montreal only) is also one that many high compression engine owners like to use.

With the gas price at 5.5$ a gallon for regular right now I think I'm gonna pass and wait a little. When the prices will go down I will try to see if I can get some premium and look at the FE.

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Turns out all of 91+ octane gas in Canada seems to be ethanol free........the gas price at 5.5$ a gallon for regular right now.... When the prices will go down I will try to see if I can get some premium and look at the FE.
This post was from 2012. Wonder if the poster ever tried ethanol-free E0? Even in our high-priced part of the U.S., 87 octane E0 did get as low as $3.10 last year. During the summer, our 140,000 mile, EPA highway-rated 32MPG Hyundai Accent, got 18 tanks in a row that were over & well-over 40MPG.....80% of those tanks, running on 87 octane E0.
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Just found out the coop station nearby has it... for like $1.40 more per gallon than regular (it’s premium octane).

Even more recently I saw a sign at a new station saying they had E0, but I didn’t inquire about the price.

Maybe I’ll run a few tankfulls one day for “science”.
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Maybe I’ll run a few tankfulls one day for “science”.
I tested a tankful of non-ethanol gasin my old Festiva and found it was basically just more expensive with no visible benefits. Of course that was in a twenty year old putt-putt beater, so who knows what it would do in a newer car

I do run non-ethanol gas in all of my lawn equipment, generators, pressure washer, and my boat since it doesn't gum up the carbs. Maybe I should run it in the Volt since the tank that's in it is the same one that was in it when I bought it last October
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The really obvious comment: did you do alcohol testing on some samples?

Fuel suppliers tend to WYSINWYG.
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The Cenex stations I've been to have ethanol free gas.
Hello fellow ND person! Cenex isn't a nationwide chain, for what it's worth.
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Our ethanol free unleaded 91 octane (no they don't add lead to it) is about $.20/gallon more than the premium 91 octane which is $.20/gallon more than the least expensive 87 octane. Exxon, Conoco, Sinclair, and others all sell it but not every station.

More than anything older snow machines and outboard motors really need it. You put even the 10% stuff in something made 20 years ago by Bombardier or even Mercury and it will melt the inside of the fuel lines, gum up in the filter, lean out the motor under power, and seize a piston.
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I ran 3 or 4 tanks in a row last month of E0 in the XFE, noticed this one station had 87E0 for only $0.20 more then 87E10. I'm having some fuel trim issues.......4 tanks of E0 with a 38.3 MPG 3-tank average ($0.075/mile).......4 tanks of E15 with a 35 MPG 3 tanks average ($0.072/mile)
That's too bad about your problems. Last summer, using 87 octane E0, 85% of the time in our 140,000 mile, EPA highway 32MPG Hyundai Accent, 18 tanks in a row were over 40MPG. The highest tanks were all E0, the top three being 45+, 47+ & 48+ MPG. Our two Hyundai Elantras AND the Accent have small gas tanks, but ALL of them registered 500 miles on single tanks of gas. During last summer's boon of "efficiency", two of the cars were wearing used boots, much larger than standard.
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...I might be getting another Elantra $13,000 can get a 2017 with under 30,000 miles..... since the Hyundai fuel efficiency scandal they underrate some of their cars.
We got our 2016 Elantra brand new with full 100,000 mile warrantee...... for under $13,000. Some people were getting new Elantras for $11,000 recently.
The so-called Elantra scandal was a bunch of talkin' head leadfooters who wouldn't work to get 30-40MPG. I knew it before we bought two Elantras, both which have gotten 45-46MPG. For the first year of the 2013 Elantra, using 87 octane 100% E0, I over-all averaged 39MPG (pencil & paper, not car computer).
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...Just did a cars search for new and found some listed for $10,600 but 480 miles away. $14,900 if within 200 miles. A road trip to Oklahoma might be in order to save that much money. Wouldn't have even look at new without your tip. Thanks
Edit: bundles of stacked discounts from the OK dealer, that price isn't real.
Oh, good! You can go on a scenic drive. That's wonderful! Yes, dealers are dealers. They ain't goin' ta give no good deals, ifn they can squeeze ya for more loot. But now you have a low-ball price. Go after it. First, don't tell them you know the internet low price. Second, you can call one of the sales-people now & begin haggling on the phone? Tell them its the wrong color AND you have to drive so far(don't tell them how far). Third, don't talk with anyone, when you walk on the dealer lot at the end of the month with a paper, comparing other potential purchases. Have a pencil to add information, like serial numbers & identification codes. Papers, pencils & writing scare sales-people so they hand you off to a more experienced sales-person. Tell them, you can find a better deal with a competitor that is further away..... tell them you can get a great deal on a Toyota, which have better colors than Hyundai (true, Hyundai colors are NOT the best)! Is the deal on a manual tranny Elantra? If you don't buy it, it might sit on their lot for a long time. That's what I told them & they sold a bottom-low priced manual Elantra to me, as it was rolled off the semi, not even washed yet.


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