06-13-2009, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by alohaspirit
What if you took those magnets and glued them over the stop light sensors
Might save gas when you hit all those green lights
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Not so much... stop light sensors aren't magnetic. Ask bikers.
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06-13-2009, 01:08 AM
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All stop lights are not the same. Some have sensing loops and some are controlled by algorhythm.
MN passed a law allowing cyclists to "run a red" if they come to a complete stop and there is no cross traffic, because they finally figured out that bikes don't trip the sensing loop. I'm glad they passed that law cuz I'd been running those reds anyway. Heck if I'm gonna sit there in the middle of nowhere waiting for a light that's never gonna change.
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06-13-2009, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank Lee
All stop lights are not the same. Some have sensing loops and some are controlled by algorhythm.
MN passed a law allowing cyclists to "run a red" if they come to a complete stop and there is no cross traffic, because they finally figured out that bikes don't trip the sensing loop. I'm glad they passed that law cuz I'd been running those reds anyway. Heck if I'm gonna sit there in the middle of nowhere waiting for a light that's never gonna change.
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I ride cycle too and I couldve sworn some (not all) can be triggered with magnets
And yeah, I run those reds all the time too.
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06-13-2009, 02:54 PM
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magnets
Gasoline is paramagnetic.It is not a dipole molecule as water.Gasoline cannot be affected by a magnetic field.I believe your fuel savings stem from some other driving dynamic.
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01-10-2011, 10:52 PM
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Read this http://www.anl.gov/PCS/acsfuel/prepr...03-98_0216.pdf and there was another one i read that said that the magnets only work if u have the south side towards the fuel so the other ones they tested most likely had the north sides towards the fuel or the north and south witch the study says cancels the effect of the south side anyway, and it only reduces the viscosity or surface tension of the fluid(just like acetones supposed to do which increased my fuel economy by 5mpg in town)
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01-11-2011, 01:08 AM
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01-11-2011, 04:53 PM
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Stovie, Thanks for the info. Do you have any milage data for your vehicle? I see you only put a few onces of acetone in your fuel, so it can't have to much fuel value.
The report you indicated speaks of the viscosity of the fuel, which i think speaks to the quality of the refineing of the fuel. (if the fuel is refined fully then there should be complete burn. There is a point in refining that it becomes unprofitable to continue refineing further. This also depends on the quality of the machine burning the fuel). I also believe that every dispensing site or station has different quality of fuel. How long has the fuel been sitting there, what temperature is it. How far has it been transported to the site. How much contamination has occurred,moisture, dirt particles,etc. If oil has to be refined how long does it take to revert back to its' natural state.
There are many factors impacting fuel milage.I agree with the point that gas has a finite amount of btu. I believe the difference is in the refineing, delivery and the dispensing of fuel and the atmospheric conditions present in the burning of the fuel, and the quality of the machine consuming the fuel.
I speak of quality of refining because of the different "grades" of fuel. If all gas was equal then why do we need "grades of fuel".
Acetone must have a diluting effect so fuel expands thus extending the fuel. I think the magnet has a similar effect. I think the magnet is unique in that it won't increase the btu value of fuel, but treat it so it becomes more in its' natural state. I think the only way a magnet will increase milage is if there is a regulating device such as a ECU to sense the change and adjust fuel flow accordingly. Older cars without ECUs will not increase in milage, but will benefit from cleaner burning fuel and less emmissions. Newer cars with ECUS will have a varying benefit depending on make and quality of ECU.
My milage has maintained its' level for over two years with the magnets on both vehicles, so I believe they are benefical.
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01-11-2011, 06:27 PM
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didnt mythbusters bust both acetone and magnets?
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01-11-2011, 07:02 PM
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didnt mythbusters bust both acetone and magnets?
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...yes, but what does Mythbusters™ and Reality-TV have to do with either reality or science (wink,wink)?
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01-11-2011, 07:06 PM
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Alohaspirit, I'm sure everyone has busted magnets and acetone. I'm talking about them because they work for both my cars and my family. Everyone should do thier own due diligence and find for themselves. I'm glad I tried.
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