The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[freebeard]

How it was 2 billion years ago, is the question.

Why?

And perhaps how it was 120 million years ago.

Why?

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Life phases
Main articles: Formation and evolution of the Solar System and Stellar evolution

The Sun today is roughly halfway through the most stable part of its life. It has not changed dramatically for over four billion[a] years, and will remain fairly stable for more than five billion more. However, after hydrogen fusion in its core has stopped, the Sun will undergo severe changes, both internally and externally.

The plasma connection to the wider Galaxy will persist.

[All Darc]

To help estimate and calculate how it will be in future.
To understand how life and clime was 120 million years ago.

Originally Posted by freebeard

Why?



Why?



The plasma connection to the wider Galaxy will persist.

[NeilBlanchard]

NOVA on climate science:

NOVA - Official Website | Decoding the Weather Machine

I learned something new, watching this NOVA program - how we can measure the temperature of the ocean, from sea shells. Watch it, and we can discuss it.

The sun is about 4.6 Billion years old, and it will last another 4.5-5.5 Billion years.

https://www.universetoday.com/18847/life-of-the-sun/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun

[freebeard]

Didn't watch that one, but I did watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecDDczEogR0

[sendler]

A very polarizing topic. But either side you want to look at climate change from, it is distracting us from a much bigger problem. Which is a growth based economic system that has no escape plan for the coming era of resource depletion. Oil is the most important. Crucial. And there is no conceivable replacement at the scale that we are addicted to it for farming, mining, and building big things like wind farms. We use all resources acording to the easiest first. Everything we need gets more remote with time. Oil will peak sometime mid Century and the price will skyrocket. Wrecking the economy and leaving us with little energy surplus to try to do anything about making a change as ER/EI for unconventional oil and alternatives continues to slip away.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lH1MpDLxUg

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https://youtu.be/-lH1MpDLxUg

[freebeard]

Old Tele man — Call it what you like. How do you regard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catastrophism?

Do you agree that plasma effects are scale invariant?

I agree in that I don't understand the embedded fossils and layering. And how you get from bubbles to arches.

But you don't get Lichtenberg figures via erosion.

[oil pan 4]

By 2050 oil may be running low but their will still be plenty of coal and no shortage useabe fissile fuels even if no technological further advances are made.

[freebeard]

Where there is coal, there is Thorium:
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q...thorium&ia=web

[sendler]

Neither Coal nor Thorium is very useful in a farm tractor or big mining earth mover and liquification is only 60% efficient. But it will be better than nothing once we get to that point.

[sendler]

Rebuttal to the SolutionsProject's feasiblity of replacing all energy with Wind/ Solar/ Water.
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ROADMAP TO NOWHERE
The Myth of Powering the Nation
With Renewable Energy
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http://www.roadmaptonowhere.com/wp-c...compressed.pdf
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