06-15-2018, 03:57 PM
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The north pole will have little effect, as the ice is floating in water it will weigh and displace the same as it would when molten.
But then the ice on Greenland will start melting unstoppable, and that will cause a sea level rise by several meters when completed.
The south pole is a different matter: 58 meters of sea level rise if that melts. That won't happen in a hurry, but even if it spreads out over several centuries it will be a disaster.
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For education go to people unlike yourself.
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06-15-2018, 04:17 PM
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Then we get a whole new content once it's thawed out.
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06-15-2018, 04:25 PM
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how much we use
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MacKay's book is a completely unbiased engineering study, by an engineer, on all of the possible generation methods for primary energy, how much we use, how much we can save, and what it would take to replace fossil fuel.
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This load,that we'd have to build out for,if taken at face value could support his assertions.
However its inelastic in a world of potential elasticity.
We might engineer for less load.There's a lot of fat to cut.
An Executive Order can literally transform US energy demand downward overnight with the stroke of a pen.
Barbie and Ken might not like it,but they'd protest at their own peril if the White House took hold of the media as it has in the past.
Real estate agents who air-condition their Great Dane inside a parked,idling, H-1 HUMMER, while they drank beer inside a restaurant might realize consequences for the first time in their lives.Women who read Harlequin Romances in an idling car for 45-minutes,with the air-conditioning blasting on an ozone action day as they eat lunch.Single-pane window glass in 2018.Non-insulated homes in 2018.Empty office towers burning lights as the business furniture sleeps.Etc..Perhaps you've witnessed abuses yourself?
So far,waste has been a privilege.It's never been a freedom or a right.
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06-15-2018, 04:26 PM
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Yes, but the remaining continents will be smaller!
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06-15-2018, 04:29 PM
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If the polar ice caps melted wasn't that going to raise sea levels like 300'?
If "in the past decade the polar ice caps have shown their most rapid decline in size" and the sea level has only risen enough to effect a few very poorly planned coastal cities, remind me what everyone was so worried about?
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I believe that the Arctic,Greenland ice sheet,and Antarctica are good for 240-feet of sea level rise,plus continental rebound effects,then thermal expansion if we continue to warm.Sweet!
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06-15-2018, 04:36 PM
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When will the San Andreas Fault become beachfront property?
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06-15-2018, 04:43 PM
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how long
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When will the San Andreas Fault become beachfront property?
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looks like the two plates displace around 4-inches/year between them.For the 1,000-mile length of the State,we'd be looking at around 25,000,000 years to bifurcate California. 
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06-15-2018, 04:51 PM
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Then we get a whole new content once it's thawed out.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox
Trying to keep up.
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I got an iPod Touch 2nd-hand for $25. It's like an iPhone without the security risks of a camera and microphone. You could download podcasts much faster than you can listen to them.
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Yes, but the remaining continents will be smaller!
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Beachfront property will be more valuable!
With earthquakes, the telluric current determine the location but the timing is determined by sunspots. (Sunspots are the Solar equivalent of anvil-head thunderstorms on Earth)
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06-15-2018, 05:22 PM
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If the polar ice caps melted wasn't that going to raise sea levels like 300'?
If "in the past decade the polar ice caps have shown their most rapid decline in size" and the sea level has only risen enough to effect a few very poorly planned coastal cities, remind me what everyone was so worried about?
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Concerning cities at risk... who is unable to flee from water that rises at 2mm per year  ?
Leftists should be cheering sea level rise anyhow since it's those evil rich people who live on beachfront property. 
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Only the bleep-hole ones.
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