The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[niky]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

No one is talking about volcanic CO2 and warming.

I would actually be more concerned with ash and sulfur dioxide caused cooling.

As said... we have dozens of volcanoes erupting at any given time. And we're still experiencing warming.

You only get cooling if those eruptions are big. Big enough to throw those emissions up into the stratosphere. Pinatubo big. Pinatubo caused a notable warming pause. But when those emissions cleared, temps started rising again.

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by niky

As said... we have dozens of volcanoes erupting at any given time. And we're still experiencing warming.

You only get cooling if those eruptions are big. Big enough to throw those emissions up into the stratosphere. Pinatubo big. Pinatubo caused a notable warming pause. But when those emissions cleared, temps started rising again.

So, airlines should dump "dust" enroute to offset their jetfuel CO2 emissions (wink,wink)?

[niky]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

So, airlines should dump "dust" enroute to offset their jetfuel CO2 emissions (wink,wink)?

Just run those just a little bit dirty to add sulfur to the air.

Having said that, looking it up... jets have too little sulfur emissions for these to be effective for cooling... and the amount is also considered too high... () because sulfur helps in the formation of contrails which trap heat.

Maybe we should just fly the jets higher.

[RedDevil]

I'm just dropping this in, anyone can think of it what (s)he likes.
https://davidsuzuki.org/what-you-can...limate-change/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enviro...ct_of_aviation

[RedDevil]

By the way, NASA saved the world in the 80s...

https://www.businessinsider.nl/nasa-...ocol-2018-6-2/

[gone-ot]

It's simple: Slow down...and...go back to using turbo-prop driven planes.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I don't know how many times S0 has used the term 'earth-facing quiet', or if the statistics support it. He has called out potentially crippling CMEs that blow through where the Earth would be a few month before or after.

Here's one for sendler:

www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Fuel-cell-ferry-coming-to-San-Francisco-Bay-13020867.php




That's a very sophisticated hull hydrodynamically.

If Earth intersects the path of a CME it's all over.They do leave the sun on a radial trajectory,so we'd need to be directly in the line of fire.

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by aerohead

If Earth intersects the path of a CME it's all over.They do leave the sun on a radial trajectory,so we'd need to be directly in the line of fire.

As the Dinosaurs would metaphorically say: "...and another one bites the dust..."

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

I think there are 6 volcanoes erupting now.
The forever useless main stream media hasn't seemed to notice.

I finally got to look at Viewzone's study on cosmic rays from 2009.
They were implicated as cloud condensation nuclei,responsible for clouds in the tropics.
Other than also being mutagenic,there's no mention that they're associated with volcanism.
Svensmark was trying to explain the discrepancy between observed temperatures and climate model predictions.
About the time he published,sulfate aerosol albedo effects,added to the models produced a 'fit' for the first time.After that ,there wasn't a need to look beyond greenhouse gases.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by aerohead

If Earth intersects the path of a CME it's all over.They do leave the sun on a radial trajectory,so we'd need to be directly in the line of fire.

The mass ejections spiral out on a ballistic trajectory, but there are also magnetic portals that act like hoses for charged particles.

Confirmed in 2007:
The Electric Sun/Earth Connection Confirmed

Mapped in 2014:
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/s...g-portals.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaB4cSPWBN0

Each planet's connection point wanders around on the surface of the Sun, sometimes on it's backside.