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Old 09-14-2018, 11:55 AM   #2911 (permalink)
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I would like to see thorium reactors too.
Right now thorium is a considered a radioactive waste by product left over from rare earth elements extraction.
But the anti nuclear dummies won't let technology advance, so we are stuck using cold war era nuclear energy.

You would think the anti nuclear dummies would demand nuclear waste be recycled in a timely manor.
But solely because of them it piles up in temporary storage at a 100 or so sites around the country.
They really don't have a clue.
I'm pretty sure all they have ever done is cause problems for the nuclear industry and make things worse.

Best thing they can do besides demand waste recycling is shut up and let the grown-ups take care of it.

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Old 09-14-2018, 12:33 PM   #2912 (permalink)
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You disagree with him, therefore he is wrong?
It has got nothing to do with me. Crowder is a blogger, who has been shown to get the science wrong, on many things - and therefore he is not a credible source.





And Patrick Moore is also wrong on science:

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Old 09-14-2018, 01:59 PM   #2913 (permalink)
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You disagree with him, therefore he is wrong?
It has got nothing to do with me. Crowder is a blogger, who has been shown to get the science wrong, on many things - and therefore he is not a credible source.
I got 1:27* into the first one and 0:21 into the second. potholer54 has the affect of a sanctimonious pr*ck. "...there's no need for real-time debate in science" Because it can't be peer reviewed ...or what?

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Louder With Crowder is not a credible source. He has been debunked.
Perhaps you misapprehend long-form journalism. Crowder, like Joe Rogan, is a comedian. He has guests. The guests may or may not be falsifiable sources. Admittedly, I know nothing about his blog, just the Youtube stuff.

*I can't pull it out of the transcript, but the in graphic quotes about 'fluctuations' they're talking past each other.

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Both potholer54 and Thunderfoot rub me the wrong way. I prefer a less affect[at]ed host, like Joe Scott or Scott Manley.
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:35 PM   #2914 (permalink)
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I have enjoyed some of Crowder's stuff, but there are dozens of channels that I watch first. He is annoying. Is he as annoying as Shouty? I do not have any idea. Sometimes each of them are right. Crowder provides sources. I have watched videos where he shows a liberal making claims and saying "Look it up."

Around here we demand sources. It is weird when someone makes an unsubstantiated claim, someone says they are wrong, and the original person says "Prove it."

No, the burden of proof is on the first person.

It is annoying when someone makes an unsubstantiated claim, someone asks for a source, and the first person says "Don't be lazy! Look it up yourself!"

You could argue that it is lazy, but if someone does not support their claim, I do not take it seriously.

While I was writing that there were three or four ads for the Arizona senate race. You have a retired Airman that flew fighter jets in Afghanistan and a woman that protested the war in Afghanistan by dancing in a pink tutu.

Personally I would rather watch a recreation of the fighter missions than the tutu dancing, but that is just me.

There was an ad apparently for the dancer saying that her opponent served honorably, but made dishonorable claims, which are simply not true. Don't be fooled.

Wait, which claims are untrue, and where are your sources?

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Old 09-14-2018, 04:40 PM   #2915 (permalink)
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One post only. We'll have to be patient.

What do you think of Styxhexenhammer? He's running for Governor of Vermont.



He doesn't get into climate much. He's more likely to be updating on his garden.

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Awesome. At 5:26 he says it's not dinosaur juice and it's not abiotic — its anaerobic and chemotropic bacteria. I reject my previous thinking.
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:56 PM   #2916 (permalink)
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I searched for "al gore saying "the artic could be ice free in 5 years" and found "2008 Al Gore video where he predicts that the arctic would be ice-free in 5 years." https://science.slashdot.org/story/1...eze-the-arctic

So, the the video was in 2008, and he said in five years, so by 2013, not 2010, but it still came and went.

Can we get back to not discussing that clown? I try to forget about him!

In more important news, that link led me to this: Scientists hatch crazy $500 billion plan to refreeze the Arctic
The 'real' ice is 'freshwater' ice.It's salt free.
If you pump seawater onto it,you lower it's freeze point and melt it.
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Yes, I did enjoy the video. I just didn't find it prompting me to post with new thoughts though.

A problem has to be accurately identified to accurately solve it. The variables are so great that defining the problem is difficult at best, and prone to hyperbole. Then the solutions to the poorly defined problem have undefined benefits.

How much does the $7,500 tax credit for EVs help solve whatever problem it was meant to solve? That's $1.5 Billion in lost tax revenue per auto manufacturer.

That's not to say that we shouldn't be concerned about difficult to define problems, or that solutions that are difficult to quantify are inappropriate, but the costs must be considered. This is coming from someone who is gungho on EVs.
I've been thinking about it in terms of an 'non-oil depletion allowance.'
As an incentive for the nascent EV/renewable energy companies to get a tow hold in the marketplace.
It's cheaper than war, and you get something durable,paying dividends every year into the future.
Without it,we're probably looking at a class action lawsuit, at least against the oil industry,which has enjoyed federal incentives since before dirt.
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I'd like to know the details on "oil subsidies" one of these days. It's talked about a lot, but what specifically do they entail, and for what purpose?

All businesses get to write off their expenses, so that cannot be included in what we call "subsidy". When I get time I'll try to look it up, but I've never seen someone post exactly how much the oil industry gets in subsidy, and how it is justified.
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Not sure If I should put this in its own thread, bit it was discussed here at one point.

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Old 09-15-2018, 01:54 PM   #2920 (permalink)
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It has got nothing to do with me. Crowder is a blogger, who has been shown to get the science wrong, on many things - and therefore he is not a credible source.





And Patrick Moore is also wrong on science:

PT Barnum would love this sucker-baiting tripe.
Crowder is living proof that we evolved from apes.
And I've got 3 Bibles at home.I'd be happy to loan any or all to Prager,as well as kick in a little for literacy training.
Maybe the internet ought to be regulated.

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