The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by Xist

What was that project? When I searched I just found https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017...sil-fuel-power.

That project is continuing healthily: https://www.usnews.com/news/national...h-no-emissions

This all happened back around 2011.
Don't bother with google. It's a perfect example of environmentalists screwing up the one chance at wide scale carbon sequestration.

[All Darc]

Musk have crocodile tears... For me he faked it. Not very good actor to deceive me. I think he is a narcissist, no empathy really.
He can be usefull as he like to do technologic advances, but make it to be on focus, get attention.

For narcissist, after more than 10 billions money it's no more a need, but attention and goals are the targets.
Like Steve Jobs, another narcissist, he like to humiliate employes and to be on focus, do watever he wants without really give a damn.

Originally Posted by sendler

Musk teared up when she told him electricity is so expensive there that some people were forced to choose between paying for enough AC to survive, and paying for food. He really cares very deeply about the future of humanity and carries a heavy weight. He responded solemnly "We will try harder". No wonder he has been acting a bit crazy lately.
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https://youtu.be/w7BMaG3zyVo
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[oil pan 4]

Well India now believers that galactic cosmic rays and El Nino are the major climate drivers for their sub content.
Not even going to waste my time linking the research paper since the believers will just deny and cling to their 20 year old study about the suns UV irradiance only changing by around 0.1%.

The belief that man as the driving force behind climate change is over.
Happened a lot faster than I thought it would. I figured it would be some time after 2020.

[niky]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Well India now believers that galactic cosmic rays and El Nino are the major climate drivers for their sub content.
Not even going to waste my time linking the research paper since the believers will just deny and cling to their 20 year old study about the suns UV irradiance only changing by around 0.1%.

The belief that man as the driving force behind climate change is over.
Happened a lot faster than I thought it would. I figured it would be some time after 2020.

Citation needed.

Seriously.

Because I doubt you actually read through whatever you read.

Because here:

Cosmic Rays and Climate | ScienceBits

...the author very clearly acknowledges that anthropogenic-led warming is still real, and discusses the contributions of cosmic rays on a geological time scale (read: predictable, cyclical variations). The only argument here is the percentage of recent warming caused by cosmic rays. That doesn't seem at all like a repudiation of AGW. So I sincerely hope you will share your find with us.

Also, LOL, El Nino is a known factor. The cyclical variation between El Nino and La Nina are what caused the "pause" that denialists kept harping about in the last decade... it's already a known factor.

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As an aside, I've been hearing about the link between cosmic rays and mass extinctions for the longest time. Interesting stuff.

[oil pan 4]

No point.
Man as the driving force behind the climate is going the way of dark matter.
Remember when dark matter was considered "settled science" and was untouchable.
Good times.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Man as the driving force behind the climate is going the way of dark matter. Remember when dark matter was considered "settled science" and was untouchable.

Dark matter was named that precisely because nobody knows what it is. Nobody considered it, or currently considers it untouchable because nobody has the faintest idea what it is.

Human activity may not be even close to the main factors for climate, but we're influencers. Organisms have influenced climate since the beginning of life. We're not responsible for the warming, but are likely responsible for the accelerated rate of warming.

[slowmover]

EV only makes sense in metro areas.

Yeah, restricted access.

Keep your social credit slave collar shiny. No matter how many humiliating lies it takes. Which is the point of them.

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[oil pan 4]

I'm proof EV can work in rual area.
I don't want to hear this junk about it will only work in the city. Starting to sound like some for thee, not me elitism.

I never said man has no influence on the environment.
For example the california wild fires, absolutely man's fault.
Another example, urban heat island.

Dark matter and man driven climate change have things in common. Both are based on guesses, both take creative math to work, both ignore the obvious answers, both are used to explain things we don't fully understand.
The difference between them, dark matter is a simple yes or no. Do these mass bearing particles that don't interact with anything really exist?

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Everything kept leading back to the money.

You are correct. The fossil fuel company's profits are what drive the FUD you espouse.

[oil pan 4]

May the side with the most money win.