The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[freebeard]

There's a Valley Research in Austin, TX. Valley Research Service

I found out today there are posters who avoid The Lounge because it makes them think about this stuff. It isn't just environmentalism [Club of Rome], they've gone on to Occupy the minds of little children.

I found this to be a good overview of the cultural landscape (from a Youtube perspective of course). Two people with differing perspectives sitting on a couch talking to each other. Carl defers to Felix by blurring his half of the screen and superimposing his logo over his face. That's apparently a condition on interviews.

His perspective is from Japan (where Shinto and Buddhism coexist) but apparently he's leaving there soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH4Fq_5_3gE

My note (I think it was from this): "Sanders is a moderate and Tulsi is a right-wing loon".

edit:
The German Greens were the ones that put a 20lb molten copper slug through the side of a[n industrialist's] bulletproof Mercedes, fired from a roadside mailbox.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

There's a Valley Research in Austin, TX. Valley Research Service

I found out today there are posters who avoid The Lounge because it makes them think about this stuff. It isn't just environmentalism [Club of Rome], they've gone on to Occupy the minds of little children.

I found this to be a good overview of the cultural landscape (from a Youtube perspective of course). Two people with differing perspectives sitting on a couch talking to each other. Carl defers to Felix by blurring his half of the screen and superimposing his logo over his face. That's apparently a condition on interviews.

His perspective is from Japan (where Shinto and Buddhism coexist) but apparently he's leaving there soon.

My note (I think it was from this): "Sanders is a moderate and Tulsi is a right-wing loon".

edit:
The German Greens were the ones that put a 20lb molten copper slug through the side of a[n industrialist's] bulletproof Mercedes, fired from a roadside mailbox.

I watched some of it.I don't really have an audio memory.I would have to spend a few hours doing a transcript of their conversation before I could then begin to study it and get anything out of it.It's a weakness I have.Text has always been best for me.
I'm also not a political animal,so it's especially demanding,as politicians swim in waters that have never appealed to me.Many words,little substance.It's not a criticism,just how it's been for me.
I'll watch the debates this week.It will be so specific and focused,I'll be able to keep track of it.Beyond that,I'm struggling to capture a theme,while the narrators have already moved twenty moves down the chessboard.

[NeilBlanchard]

These things are connected.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-48696023

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/20/india...hnk/index.html

[redpoint5]

High temperatures for the past few weeks has been high 60s, low 70s here. Lows have dipped into high 40s. This is unusually cool. We should be in low-mid 80s this time of year. Should be in the 90s by 4th of July.

On a tangent subject, apparently birch trees are dying in the area due to non-native beetles. Of course, the birch trees probably aren't native either. Perhaps climate change has provided a way for these beetles to thrive? Perhaps they just hadn't been introduced until somewhat recently? Anyhow, I lost my ~30 year old tree last summer and removed it this spring. Not happy about that.

https://www.columbian.com/news/2018/...beetle-damage/

[freebeard]

RE NeilBlanchard: ...he says without comment.

Suspicious 0bsservers touched on this this morning. Meanwhile...

news.slashdot.org/story/.../why-the-age-of-electric-flight-is-finally-upon-us

This week's Paris Airshow saw the launch of the world's first commercial all-electric passenger aircraft -- albeit in prototype form. Israeli firm Eviation says the craft -- called Alice -- will carry nine passengers for up to 650 miles (1,040km) at 10,000ft (3,000m) at 276mph (440km/h). It is expected to enter service in 2022. Alice is an unconventional-looking craft: powered by three rear-facing pusher-propellers, one in the tail and two counter-rotating props at the wingtips to counter the effects of drag. It also has a flat lower fuselage to aid lift.

Other interesting headlines on Slashdot at this time:

science.slashdot.org/story/.../horns-are-growing-on-young-peoples-skulls-phone-use-is-to-blame-research-suggests

news.slashdot.org/story/.../bank-of-america-ceo-we-want-a-cashless-society

I wouldn't want a crypto system that requires HTML. Especially Facespook's Libra. Yikes.

[redpoint5]

Wiki

With 260 Wh/kg cells, the 900 kWh battery capacity (3,460 kg, 7,630 lb) gives the design a range of 540–650 nmi (1,000–1,200 km) at 240 knots and 10,000 ft (3,048 m). This is anticipated to increase as battery technology improves. The batteries have been tested to more than 1,000 cycles, equivalent to 3,000 flight hours, and will then require replacement at a cost of $250,000 - half of the direct operating cost, similar to a piston engine overhaul. Based on U.S. industrial electricity prices, the direct operating cost with nine passengers and two crew, flying at 240 kn (440 km/h), will be $200 per hour, which compares to $600–1,000 per hour for existing aircraft of similar purchase price, for operations on routes under 500 nmi (930 km). This includes piston- and turboprop-powered Cessna 402s, Pilatus PC-12 and Beechcraft King Airs.[5][1] Eviation notes 45% of air routes fall within its 565 nm (1,050 km) range at 260 kt (482 km/h), or 55% of airline flights according to Flightglobal's Cirium data.[6]
The electric drivetrain will have a higher voltage than current electrical systems. The 300-kW and 400-kW chargers will recharge after one hour of flight time in half an hour. Three 260 kW (350 hp) motors drive propellers mounted on the wingtips, located in the vortices to improve efficiency, and mounted on the tail. The unpressurized aircraft will have a flat lower fuselage. The Italian company Magnaghi Aeronautica will supply the landing gear and has already produced the gear for the similarly sized Piaggio P.180 Avanti.[5] It will be built with existing technology, including a composite airframe, distributed propulsion with Siemens electric engines and Honeywell flight control systems, including automatic landing. Mobile charging stations will give one hour of flight per half-hour of charge.[2] At 3,700kg (8,200lb), the battery accounts for 60% of the aircraft take-off weight.[7]

General characteristics
Crew: 2
Capacity: 9 passengers, maximum payload of 1,250kg (2,750lb)[1]
Length: 12.2 m (40 ft 0 in)
Wingspan: 16.12 m (52 ft 11 in)
Max takeoff weight: 6,350 kg (13,999 lb)
Fuel capacity: 900 kWh, Li-ion
Powerplant: 3 × electric motors , 260 kW (350 hp) each
Performance
Cruise speed: 482 km/h (300 mph; 260 kn) at 3,000 m (10,000 ft)
Never exceed speed: 630 km/h (391 mph; 340 kn)
Range: 1,046 km (650 mi; 565 nmi) including IFR reserve
Service ceiling: 9,100 m (29,900 ft)
Approach speed: 185 km/h; 115 mph (100 kn)

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by freebeard

There's a Valley Research in Austin, TX. Valley Research Service

I found out today there are posters who avoid The Lounge because it makes them think about this stuff. It isn't just environmentalism [Club of Rome], they've gone on to Occupy the minds of little children.

I found this to be a good overview of the cultural landscape (from a Youtube perspective of course). Two people with differing perspectives sitting on a couch talking to each other. Carl defers to Felix by blurring his half of the screen and superimposing his logo over his face. That's apparently a condition on interviews.

His perspective is from Japan (where Shinto and Buddhism coexist) but apparently he's leaving there soon.

My note (I think it was from this): "Sanders is a moderate and Tulsi is a right-wing loon".

edit:
The German Greens were the ones that put a 20lb molten copper slug through the side of a[n industrialist's] bulletproof Mercedes, fired from a roadside mailbox.

I thought it was a bicycle with a basket.

[aerohead]

I've never seen anything published about the direct atmospheric heating from fossil-fuels.I did a back-of-the-envelope calculation,using 2016 data.
Global energy use was 18-TW.80% of that was attributed to fossil-fuels.That's 14.4-TW.For a year that's 126,144-TWh,or 126,144,000,000,000 kWh.Converting to Btu's gives 430,655,616,000,000,000 Btu.At 144-btu/LB of ice,this is enough heat energy to melt 2,990,644,000,000,000 pounds of ice.At 12,000 Btu/ton refrigeration,this is equivalent to 249,222,000,000-tons cooling/year,or 42,301,400-tons/hour/24-hours a day,365-days at constant output,to balance the sensible load from the power plants.
At 300,000 gallons water/GigaWatt,cooling tower evaporation losses,the power plants would remove 37,843,200,000,000 gallons of surface water/year,or, 310,314,240,000,000 lbs H2O /year,or be adding 155,157,120,000-tons of latent heat,water vapor to the atmosphere/year.This is more than global agriculture uses according to Wysessions,at Washington University.
I'd be happy if some of you would run the numbers also and see if I blew it!
PS I used a thermal efficiency of 35%,which Wysession said was about a mean-average industry-wide.Also,these values do not include the heat load for fuel prospecting,extraction,cleaning/processing/refining,transportation,storage,delivery,waste treatment,reclamation,well-plugging,dry-holes,etc..

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

High temperatures for the past few weeks has been high 60s, low 70s here. Lows have dipped into high 40s. This is unusually cool. We should be in low-mid 80s this time of year. Should be in the 90s by 4th of July.

On a tangent subject, apparently birch trees are dying in the area due to non-native beetles. Of course, the birch trees probably aren't native either. Perhaps climate change has provided a way for these beetles to thrive? Perhaps they just hadn't been introduced until somewhat recently? Anyhow, I lost my ~30 year old tree last summer and removed it this spring. Not happy about that.

https://www.columbian.com/news/2018/...beetle-damage/

I've seen some articles about pine-beetle and bark-beetle infestations and tree kill.Evidently,all the beetles need are the warmer temps to migrate.Some other articles say that if the trees are on a N-S range,and given enough time,they'll eventually migrate north into colder climes,or move to higher elevations to escape the heat.The bummer is,that the soil types aren't necessarily acceptable,nor their ability to support the subsoil microbial life critical for certain tree species,soil moisture,drainage,pH,etc.. It's a delicate dance.
Too bad about the 30-yr-old.That's not something you just 'replace.'

[redpoint5]

Direct heating is so insignificant it can be ignored. The sun is heating by 1000 watts per square meter of earths surface when it's sunny out. Releasing stored energy is nothing compared to that.