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Old 07-17-2019, 04:00 PM   #6201 (permalink)
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As always, I'm open to being wrong about anything, but the evidence I've seen doesn't support such a viewpoint. Sunni and Shia kill each other for who gets the right to kill Israelis, so there seems to be a cultural value of killing somewhere in there. Someone might claim it's the weather or the US (or any other nation) causing them to be violent, but that's too simplistic an explanation for me.

In general, the world has gradually become less violent, and I expect that trend to continue. Some regions will be slower than others to move away from violence, and it seems like the Middle East is one of those regions.

Of course, this is necessary as humans have never had more destructive capabilities.
The British Admiralty,at the time the world's first oil-fired battleship,the HMS Spiteful sailed in 1904,had already studied the strategic importance of petroleum,as the British Empire basically didn't have any.
When Germany's oil-fired Panther sailed into Port of Agadir,Morocco in 1911,it set off a world arms race.The next year,The British Admiralty committed to an all,oil-fired navy. The Middle East was the Turkish Ottoman Empire at the time,and the world's powers were lined up to destroy her,and take her oil,with zero concern for the indigenous peoples.The United States was in on it.Memories survive there,just like the British-American War over here.
The entire human history is written in violence.
It's what we do for oil that's the issue.Over half the fuel in our gas tanks is foreign.There are consequences for that.This is the world that Johnson saw.

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Old 07-17-2019, 04:06 PM   #6202 (permalink)
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It all part of Saharasia, what else should we expect?

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If you like big data, then consider "It employed standard cross-cultural correlation tables on over 60 different variables, plus geographical mapping and quadruple blind research procedures to insure objectivity, and all the basic starting assumptions are clearly elucidated in advance."

You certainly don't have to have a top secret clearance to know what's been happening for the last 6000 years. Radiating waves of misery.

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The anthropogenic carbon contribution equals burning Earth's entire forest cover,fifteen times each year.
That seems to be a recurring theme. Reconcile with this:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=atmospheric+carbon+from+volcanoes+vs+forest+fir es

Scanning the results suggests forest fires equals half of all fossil fuel or all the [ICE] cars. Volcanoes are "carbon neutral"(?) but can ruin your whole day.

New post 'Evidence'

I've been watching this channel on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Drachinifel

https://youtu.be/ar04557d1ZM
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:26 PM   #6203 (permalink)
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It all part of Saharasia, what else should we expect?

JAMES DEMEO: SAHARASIA

If you like big data, then consider "It employed standard cross-cultural correlation tables on over 60 different variables, plus geographical mapping and quadruple blind research procedures to insure objectivity, and all the basic starting assumptions are clearly elucidated in advance."

You certainly don't have to have a top secret clearance to know what's been happening for the last 6000 years. Radiating waves of misery.



That seems to be a recurring theme. Reconcile with this:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=atmospheric+carbon+from+volcanoes+vs+forest+fir es

Scanning the results suggests forest fires equals half of all fossil fuel or all the [ICE] cars. Volcanoes are "carbon neutral"(?) but can ruin your whole day.

New post 'Evidence'

I've been watching this channel on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Drachinifel

https://youtu.be/ar04557d1ZM
Is Demeo the latest stand-up comedian? Do you actually believe that you could possibly quantify such a thing? He's a moron.Arguing how many angels that can dance on the head of a pin.
You do need a top-secret security clearance to know what's really behind 'officialdom.'
Carbon dioxide from forest fires and volcanoes is nothing compared to anthropogenic emissions.
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My quick search showed an average of 8B tons of CO2 emitted in forest fires each year vs 45B tons released by human activity.

What is the source that shows 15x all of earth's forests worth of CO2 is emitted by humans each year? That doesn't pass my sniff test.
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Is Demeo the latest stand-up comedian? Do you actually believe that you could possibly quantify such a thing? He's a moron.Arguing how many angels that can dance on the head of a pin.
Not a comedian. A sociological researcher/scientist tarred with the same brush as Wilhem Reich. I have no opinion on who the moron is in this situation.

How do you quantify such a thing? You take the most extensive data sets available for research and map it globally, over time, at a finer granularity than anyone else has attempted.

Then you offer a trend analysis that matches the historical record and suffer ad hominem attacks. If your getting flak you know you're over the target.

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You do need a top-secret security clearance to know what's really behind 'officialdom.'
Else you monitor open sources and know everything they know, by their actions. 'Oficialdom' is reduced in the current security environment to passing communications in the clear, on 8chan.

The choice to know will be yours.
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Forest fires happen every year, and if left alone the same amount of carbon gets trapped by trees growing in clearances caused by fires in the previous years. So in essence forest fires do not add to the carbon in the atmosphere.

Unless the fires are used to clear land for other purposes, as sadly happens on a large scale. Then the land won't recapture the same amount of carbon in the coming years.
But that carbon addition is caused by human activity and should be accounted as such.

So if half the forest fires are to clear land, 4B of CO2 should be added to the 45B tally for human activuity, and the other 4B can be wiped as it is compensated by reforestation.
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Only 4% of Americans believe climate change, the environment and pollution are the most important problem.
It's actually up form 3%.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/mo...t-problem.aspx
So it's nearly a dead issue.
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I hope the deniers/don't carers are very young... so that they get to live with the imminent disasters (that are already here but will worsen).
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Whatever. I have been hearing the same dooms day crap for 25 years and we always have, 5, 10, 12 years ect and the world ends.
Can't believe people still fall for this crap even it's only 4%.

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