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Old 08-03-2019, 11:57 PM   #6401 (permalink)
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Old 08-04-2019, 12:37 AM   #6402 (permalink)
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Somewhere I have a book (can't find it with DDG) about how the Earth once had ice water rings like Saturn, but they collapsed and raised the water from the original continental shelves. I could dig it out but something else wouldn't get done. IIRC it was wrtten, or at least illustrated, by Jack Hamm the how-to-draw guy.

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It stopped being about science a long time ago......
Ah, you agree that AGW deniers started talking a long time ago.
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Some people are good with observations and jumping to conclusions that help for fill a desire with no actual science involving reproducible experiments and controls.
It's not the first time, won't be the last.
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It stopped being about science a long time ago.
The AGW dooms day cultists are all fired up I have noticed, must be worried about their religion. (And you should be )
The scientists are still working. And the message hasn't changed. Temperatures are still up.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201901

The only politics in this is what we do about it. And, admittedly, a lot of the measures proposed are pie-in-the-sky thinking. But the science is still sound.
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When the science is only based on observations then at best you can start to form a hypothesis.
It can be a sound hypothesis and competing hypothesis should be welcomed.
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July 2019 Was Not the Warmest on Record: Roy Spencer, PhD
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One would think that the very best data would be used to make this assessment....

But current official pronouncements of global temperature records come from a fairly limited and error-prone array of thermometers which were never intended to measure global temperature trends. The global surface thermometer network has three major problems when it comes to getting global-average temperatures:
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We already know they cherry pick like crazy to make every month the warmest on record.
At best it's observation based science, at the very least with a strong bias if not outright fraud is being used to support a predetermined conclusion.
You see this any time a religion is put in charge of science.
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A hoax to exert more control and fleece everyone. “International Agencies” to be created, no doubt.

The Big Lie is one folks can’t believe would be fostered upon them. Just keep repeating until they do. (Heinrich Himmler commenting on Jewish tactics).

Whomever is the OP needs to request the thread title be changed. “Consensus” isn’t science. Consensus is politics or religious accord. Who, whom. Not truth.

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Ah, you agree that AGW deniers started talking a long time ago.
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Ah, you agree that AGW deniers falsely set themselves equivalent to science & scientists.

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