The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[oil pan 4]

Stormy Daniela and Michael avenatti fell through, Brett Kavanagh failed, Russia collusion is dead you cling to his tax returns?
Hahahahaha!
Wishing don't make it true.
You do realize every single higher up at the IRS has been over his tax returns with a fine tooth comb for as far back as the statue of limitations is good for right?
And if they found anything it would have been leaked back in like 2016, conveniently right before the election.

What are you going to do when trump gets reelected?

[redneck]

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Ha...!!!

So much for open and freely shareing research so it can be duplicated and verified by others.

He had 8 years to produce the data.



MICHAEL MANN REFUSES TO PRODUCE DATA, LOSES CASE

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...loses-case.php


More info here.


https://principia-scientific.org/bre...imate-lawsuit/







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[freebeard]

Thank you for your confidence in me, instead of FOX, who has mesmerized [snip].

Please stop. Or start your own thread to discuss it.

Wishing don't make it true.

You can wish in one hand and poop in the other, and see which one fills up first.

redneck — I saw that. Worth a chuckle.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by redneck

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Ha...!!!

So much for open and freely shareing research so it can be duplicated and verified by others.

He had 8 years to produce the data.



MICHAEL MANN REFUSES TO PRODUCE DATA, LOSES CASE

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...loses-case.php


More info here.


https://principia-scientific.org/bre...imate-lawsuit/







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Not just Mann, all of the global warming pushers refuse to share their source data.
Almost like they have something to hide.

[sendler]

Just about every new SSP prediction scenario that just came out that are used by climate scientists to model climate change shows more coal and natural gas than rebuildable energy in 2100. And higher total energy consumption.
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https://www.resilience.org/stories/2...ming-scenario/
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[sendler]

The SSPs (Shared Socio-economic pathways) are based on five narratives describing broad socioeconomic trends that could shape future society. These are intended to span the range of plausible futures.

They include: a world of sustainability-focused growth and equality (SSP1); a “middle of the road” world where trends broadly follow their historical patterns (SSP2); a fragmented world of “resurgent nationalism” (SSP3); a world of ever-increasing inequality (SSP4); and a world of rapid and unconstrained growth in economic output and energy use (SSP5).
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https://www.carbonbrief.org/explaine...climate-change
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[sendler]

Easier to see chart of predicted energy by source for the different Shared Socio-Economic Pathways that the scientists are now using for the updated climate change models. Is there really that much recoverable oil left? 120 million barrels a day for the next 80 years and beyond? We are already fracking the source rock and drilling in the deep ocean. After this there is nothing left.
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SSP1 predicts 3C warming and SSP5, 5C and higher beyond 2100
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They are more optimistic than the UN (predicts 10.5 billion peak) on controlling the peak population. Our current debt/ growth/ inequality based economic system requires constant 3% growth of GPD in order to create "jobs" for full employment. This results in a doubling of GDP every 25 years and would result in nearly the level which is shown in SSP5. Is it really possible to see the size of the human endeavor as 8 times bigger than today in 75 years given the constraints of raw material throughput and declining resource grades?
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https://www.carbonbrief.org/explaine...lCGuCzMyA2UygQ
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[redpoint5]

I expect population growth to decline at increasing rates and peak within my lifetime. Any rate of growth is unsustainable in the long term.

Households had been slightly reducing electricity consumption over the past couple decades or so, but I expect we're starting to slightly go back the other direction again. Everything is "smart" and "connected" now. That takes electricity. I've got something like 6 Google Home devices because they were so cheap and included with other purchases. I've got a Google Chromecast, a smart thermostat, smart sprinkler, smart outlets and switches... (I can hear freebeard cringing now). Enormous TVs are cheap these days, and newer OLED technology actually consumes a little more power than the LED/LCD technology it replaces.

I'll point out that our economic system isn't based on inequality; it's the natural state of the world. The world is unequal, and we're members of it. That poses problems that might warrant some sort of intervention, but inequality itself does not imply injustice, unless you're speaking in a cosmic sense in that good fortune is not bestowed evenly.

[sendler]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I expect population growth to decline at increasing rates and peak within my lifetime. Any rate of growth is unsustainable in the long term.

You are planning on living past 2100? Asia and India have done a good job educating and empowering women that two is enough and is only forecast to add another billion. Africa is set to triple in population over 80 years and add another 3 billion.
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[aerohead]

Originally Posted by All Darc

No solar energy in the tough winters... Solutions???
Nuclear power just for the winter (when home heating it's more required)???

Solar concentrators to help solar panels get better output efficiency?
But with clouds the light of the sun became no longer parallel, but difused, So a concentrator to try work with difused light can be a challenge.

If they could develop a way to harvest enery the the difference of potential (thermal) from cold air in relation to the warmer temperature of ground 3 meters away from surface.

It's easy to move a turbine with heat, as you just need to create vapor. But with cold...

The Wally Minto 'Wonder Wheel',operates on as little as a few degrees difference between the 'boiler' and condenser,using refrigerants as the working fluid.They turn at very low rpm,with 'torque' as their primary attribute,and are typically geared up for more useful power.
It's the only low delta-T engine I've seen.