The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[freebeard]

How far are you from the New Valley of the Sun? That's where Ben Davidson chose.

I can rest easy because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_wave_theory. But I don't get why all particles aren't entangled all the time and how do you sort out your exemplar entanglement from all the others.

[oil pan 4]

I'm in the eastern part of the state near the Texas border. Albuquerque is like a 4 hour drive from here.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I would expect declining O2 concentrations to curtail fire more than fractions of a degree increase in temperature would encourage them.

Additional warming in the Arctic (world's fastest-warming region) will further exacerbate the polar jet,which will further exacerbate the jet stream,which will further exacerbate unusual spatial and temporal distribution and magnitude of precipitation and heat/cold; which could further impact warming and drought which produce the fuel for the existing wild/bush fires we're experiencing.
If that were to happen,we'd have an increased likelihood for fires,in an atmosphere only microscopically reduced in oxygen content.And the same drought which allowed for the Australian fires also limited the fire department's access to water with which to fight the fires.And that could also be amplified.
I wouldn't want to bet on an oxygen-starved atmosphere as a palliative to global warming effects.
Economists say that the ounce of prevention will easily outshine the pound of cure.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Economists say that the ounce of prevention will easily outshine the pound of cure.

Those are the opinions I would like to read. The stuff that gets media attention is just yelling and crying.

[freebeard]

Additional warming in the Arctic (world's fastest-warming region) will further exacerbate the polar jet,which will further exacerbate the jet stream,which will further exacerbate unusual spatial and temporal distribution and magnitude of precipitation and heat/cold; which could further impact warming and drought which produce the fuel for the existing wild/bush fires we're experiencing.

Chaos

https://thedonald.win/p/3s8tUb0/100-...an-average-/c/

[–] Trumppopotamus [S] (18 points) 7 hours ago *

The left are running a campaign to have the PM and government overturned (sound familiar?) while complaining that its not solving the fires by acknowledging Climate Change. Australia top twitter trends are #climateemergency #dismisstheprimeminister

They think the fire are due to climate change and the government should be waving its magic wand to reverse it.

Problem is:

“ There are, on average, 62,000 fires in Australia every year. Only a very small number strike far from populated areas and satellite studies tell us that lightning is responsible for only 13 per cent. Not so the current fires threatening to engulf Queensland and NSW. There were no lightning strikes on most of the days when the fires first started in September. Although there have been since, these fires – joining up to create a new form of mega-fire – are almost all man-made.” https://www.smh.com.au/national/arso...17-p53bcl.html

“ Dozens of fires continue to burn in the states of Queensland and New South Wales, where more than 50 people have been charged with arson since August. Another 150 suspects are being interviewed by investigators.

More than 2 million hectares of land, including vast areas of forest, have been scorched in eastern Australia’s bushfire crisis. Hundreds of homes have been destroyed, and six people have died.

The Australian Institute of Criminology has estimated that around half of the nation’s bushfires are either arson or suspected arson.

Most offenders are male. Many are children. Some have been the victims of sexual or physical abuse, while much work has been done to explore the motivations of adult firebugs.
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These fires are from miss-management of the land due to new green policies stopping controlled burns, they are being lit mostly by arsonists - which you must also believe some are eco-terrorists who want to prove the climate change agenda with a problem - reaction - solution debate rather than just all being fire bug fetishists. Of the firebugs most of them fit the profile of your average leftist.

Comments are awarded points. This appears to be a good moderation system.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Chaos

https://thedonald.win/p/3s8tUb0/100-...an-average-/c/

Comments are awarded points. This appears to be a good moderation system.

'can't do anything about the pyromaniacs.A best friend managed to burn the family home down with a Hostess Pop-Tart and an under-counter toaster oven.He had no intention that this happen.A very dark day.
You just gotta love combustible foods and nitrocellulose lacquer cabinet finishes! And loosely-conceived electric appliances.

[oil pan 4]

Inconvenient truth.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...UWeDNky3ORBuTY

Remember those stupid "the glaciers will be gone by 2020" signs at glacier national park?
6 to 15 years ago we all had to hear _______ will be gone or melted by 2020. Now the believers are walking it back and saying no one ever said that and that the denyers just made it up.

[freebeard]

In the 1970s my nemesis[es] were the Thorpe brothers out of California. One of them managed to burn down the Breitenbush Hot Springs [Lodge].

I should have checked S0 earlier, there was a link to this: Space Weather Quarterly

[Grant-53]

Here is the problem with much of the conversations and debates on technical subjects. We don't always take the time to study the actual science using the scientific method and the Cause/Effect relationships. I worked in a research lab and had to do tests on Gorilla glass. It is tempting to do the same experiments over and over trying to get different results to support a theory. In reality we should evaluate the actual results to improve our hypotheses. We are dealing with conclusions based on correlations more often than cause and effect because the systems we are examining are complex. Good experiment design goes a long way in discovering the actual relationships. We have emissions systems on engines to reduce the production of NOx gas in the combustion process. Consider the angle of incidence for sunlight is different at higher latitudes. You are all intelligent enough to do research from open source materials and consult specialists. Books on chemistry, heat transfer, or meteorology are available. Research on the solar cycles is still ongoing. Data from ice cores and tree rings is being evaluated. Strange how the story of "The Emperor's New Clothes" is no longer popular.
The Genesis narrative is also ignored even though the evolutionists use the same order of creation.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Inconvenient truth.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...UWeDNky3ORBuTY

Remember those stupid "the glaciers will be gone by 2020" signs at glacier national park?
6 to 15 years ago we all had to hear _______ will be gone or melted by 2020. Now the believers are walking it back and saying no one ever said that and that the denyers just made it up.

Some were gone before 2019,so we might want to be specific.There are thousands of glaciers scattered around the planet,and other than remote observation by satellite,and post-1976 computer,optical recognition capabilities,we have no way to monitor them without additional research funding
The trend is melting glaciers,and glaciers calving ice bergs into the oceans,with sea-level rise.You can't raise the temperature of your house and expect a glass of ice tea sitting on the kitchen table not to lose it's ice sooner.