The man with the Mustang

[rbtree]

So, now it's a hybrid? Why didn't he say so? Still, methinx the claims are far fetched... I'll let you pro modders evaluate the content of these two articles:

toledoblade.com --

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[pgfpro]

Moving to another forum.

[rbtree]

So, the writer said he was using two spiral gel core batteries, which, after doing a litttle googling, I see is just a better lead acid battery. Very heavy, and he'd need a ton of them to be able to help run the car, and up the fuel economy the needed 6-8 times above normal for that car, engine, and fuel....

[rbtree]

This blogger reports from SEMA..... My comments in italics

Truth with Speedzzter (including commentary on Ford Motor Co.)


LAS VEGAS -- At the 2009 Specialty Equipment Market Association Show, HP2g.com released more details about its revolutionary 110 m.p.g. electric hybrid V8 Ford Mustang. Doug Pelmear’s innovative 4.8 liter V8 engine uses electronically-managed variable displacement and an integrated pulsed electric motor to vary output for conditions and power demand. The naturally-aspirated HP2g engine can produce as much as 400 horsepower and 500 lbs/ft of torque during acceleration and as little as 15 horsepower during part throttle cruise conditions. The engine is computer managed.

The revolution in HP2g’s powerplant is three-fold. First, according to HP2g’s press release, “[T]he HP2g E-85 fueled engine can transition from running on all eight cylinders down to firing on just one.” Unlike conventional variable displacement systems now in production, the HP2g’s engine rotates the single active cylinder among the eight using a proprietary process.

Love to see everyone's comments on that, and below as well

Second, HP2g reportedly has integrated a unique electric motor which operates “on a pulse basis, instead of what is called full saturation.” HP2g uses rapid electric cycling to conserve electric energy. The integrated motor also reportedly employs regenerative braking. The battery pack for the pulsed electric motor is reportedly two racing spiral core gel batteries.

wouldn't that be 24 volts? Far from what's needed to supply much power assist, right?

Third, HP2g has discovered “added efficiencies because of tight tolerances and sturdy design.”

Cool, that might give another what, 3-5% gains?

[Formula413]

Originally Posted by rbtree

Unlike conventional variable displacement systems now in production, the HP2g’s engine rotates the single active cylinder among the eight using a proprietary process.

If he actually pulled this off I am impressed. That would be one helluva complex crankshaft, but it would be pretty cool.

Originally Posted by rbtree

Third, HP2g has discovered “added efficiencies because of tight tolerances and sturdy design.”

But all the brilliant, experienced, well educated engineers that build and design engines and have been for years haven't done that?

[Frank Lee]

Engineers discovered years ago how tight tolerances can be made. They can be tightened up and equalized a wee skosh from production via blueprinting but beyond that all ya end up doing is destroying the oil film and seizing parts together.

Cadillac has a "rotating firing scheme" but it's a limp-home mode for a coolant loss event.

Pelmear doesn't use a complex crank. I doubt it even does shut anything down, but in the unlikely event it does, it likely doesn't even shut the valves down (no time for that) so it would be the same completely ineffective bull**** ignition/injector kill that we've disproven 1000 times over.

[Christ]

I reserve comment pending further investigation.

PS - 2 batteries could be anything ranging from .2 volts (or less) all the way to ∞...

Bonus points for anyone that knows the true name of the infinity symbol! (As represented in 3D space.)

[rbtree]

True, but I'm sure a "racing spiral core battery" is nothing more than a 12 volt battery.

[pgfpro]

Moving to another forum.

[dcb]

Originally Posted by Christ

Bonus points for anyone that knows the true name of the infinity symbol! (As represented in 3D space.)

depends how you project it into 3d, could be (not a comprehensive list):

a. two tubes next to each other, I think the true name is "really cool straw from fast food restaurant"

b. two balls touching, correctly termed dognuts

c. something that looks like two hyper dimensional do-nuts

d. a torus with R = r