Seems like electric is the end goal

[Isaac Zachary]

As someone who works in a school, from what I understand is that as every year passes by more and more is required from teachers. I know lots of run-of-the-mill public grade school teachers that start every day at 6am, or even earlier. And often many of them are still there at 6pm, sometimes later. I've seen a few work all-nighters just to get done what is required from them. I should know, I'm the night janitor.

[freebeard]

I didn't homeschool my son, because our family was broken; but it appears that passing grades only require two hours a day.

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[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary

As someone who works in a school, from what I understand is that as every year passes by more and more is required from teachers. I know lots of run-of-the-mill public grade school teachers that start every day at 6am, or even earlier. And often many of them are still there at 6pm, sometimes later. I've seen a few work all-nighters just to get done what is required from them. I should know, I'm the night janitor.

As always, I'm speaking broadly. My shop teacher spent evenings and weekends with us to create an electric car building club that he eventually turned into a curriculum and class. He stopped by my 40th birthday party.

You think he got paid more than the deadbeat with the same number of years who put in the minimum amount of effort to get by?

What percent of the teachers are staying 6am-6pm? I saw the science teacher drive off in his Miata every day while I waited for my bus to depart the parking lot. Must be nice to go home from work at 2:20pm. He was an excellent teacher. Let me stay in his class even though I wasn't registered. Said if I could pass a pop quiz, I could stay.

After the 1st year of teaching, the curriculum should be mostly developed. Not like practicing ABCs in a Kindergarten class requires a lot of prep and review of the material. That's not to say it isn't a difficult job to get a bunch of low attention span kids to pay attention and take direction, or that dealing with parents is a cakewalk.

Heck, teachers have tons of breaks during the day. They aren't teaching when kids are on recess, at lunch, doing PE or music. In high school they get a period or 2 off as an admin time.

Originally Posted by freebeard

I didn't homeschool my son, because our family was broken; but it appears that passing grades only require two hours a day.

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I could get 2 weeks of school work done in a single day of detention. Pretty easy to breeze through it when there are no distractions.

Wouldn't be surprised if I could keep my kids up to speed with a single hour, broken into 2 or 3 sessions.

Problem is that classes have to be taught to the lowest common denominator, because "no child left behind". Also, "no child to excel".

This is exactly what most idiots want these days though, because that's precisely what equity is. You can't make a dumb kid bright, but you can make a bright kid dumb.

[Xist]

I have worked at schools and rarely left before 4.

Often meetings kept me later.

Teachers would see me walking past and urgently ask if I could watch their class while they ran to the bathroom.

I am sure that someone, somewhere is trying to use AI to increase the profit margin of healthcare.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I could get 2 weeks of school work done in a single day of detention. Pretty easy to breeze through it when there are no distractions.

Wouldn't be surprised if I could keep my kids up to speed with a single hour, broken into 2 or 3 sessions.

Problem is that classes have to be taught to the lowest common denominator, because "no child left behind". Also, "no child to excel".

This is exactly what most idiots want these days though, because that's precisely what equity is. You can't make a dumb kid bright, but you can make a bright kid dumb.

And nowadays, unfortunately, most teachers seem to be those idiots who are frustrated in life because they couldn't go to the college they intended, and became teachers just to avoid getting a blue-collar job. Some if not most of my former teachers were that bad. And for such creatures, it's easier to turn a bright kid into a mediocre to say the least, than to do something beneficial to the seemingly dumb kids.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

And nowadays, unfortunately, most teachers seem to be those idiots who are frustrated in life because they couldn't go to the college they intended, and became teachers just to avoid getting a blue-collar job. Some if not most of my former teachers were that bad. And for such creatures, it's easier to turn a bright kid into a mediocre to say the least, than to do something beneficial to the seemingly dumb kids.

Most teachers intend well. Most teachers think they have wisdom, because they think that's what college gave them.

My average teacher was average. Half were worse than that. Half were better. I don't remember the bad ones. Good ones attend your 40th birthday party and I'll never forget them.

Tonight I attended an event that presented the 8 school board candidates for 4 positions in my city. First time I've ever attended a government discussion. Back in the Bush era, we created "no child left behind", which is an idiotic thing to say. Of course we have to leave children behind. If we have to prevent bright kids from excelling until the idiots catch up, we just end up with a bunch of idiots. That's a harsh thing to say, but it's the truth. Anyone proclaiming "no child left behind" is simply a moron. You can't take them seriously because they are the stupid person we should all leave behind.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Most teachers intend well. Most teachers think they have wisdom, because they think that's what college gave them.

Most folks who went to college, not only teachers, are indoctrinated to act as if they believe they have a "duty" as a sort of "savior of the world" through all that woke BS.

Back in the Bush era, we created "no child left behind", which is an idiotic thing to say. Of course we have to leave children behind.

There was a similar stupidity here too, the so-called "automatic progression", yet it only applied to public schools and I don't know to which extent it was effectively applied.

If we have to prevent bright kids from excelling until the idiots catch up, we just end up with a bunch of idiots. That's a harsh thing to say, but it's the truth. Anyone proclaiming "no child left behind" is simply a moron. You can't take them seriously because they are the stupid person we should all leave behind.

It's often said that American public schools either treat the kids as if they were all retards or to set the black kids up for prison. At least homeschooling is legal there, which seems to be a reasonable approach to overcome this problem. Even though I believe kids need some interaction with their peers, school is not the only environment suitable for that anyway...

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

Most folks who went to college, not only teachers, are indoctrinated to act as if they believe they have a "duty" as a sort of "savior of the world" through all that woke BS.

Wokeness is an oxymoron. Wokeness is automated response based on tribal affiliation, which is the opposite of conscientious thought.

That said, people have a "duty" to create an optimally functioning society, because they have an obligation to the future, just as they were an investment into the future. This is an appeal to personal responsibility though, not a suggestion that the state should obligate individuals to respond. The state can't make me feel responsible for others; quite the opposite actually.

It's often said that American public schools either treat the kids as if they were all retards or to set the black kids up for prison.

I'm very tired of racists enacting racism in the US. They are few, but they are noisy and influential. There are more poor white folk in the US because there are more white folk. There are more dumb white folk in the US because there are more white folk. We should be solving problems for people, but instead we're falling into a racist trap and wasting everyone's time to solve no problems for anybody (actually creating more problems). There are commonalities of every measure of success (and failure) that applies across all races. Any attempt to address a failure at the level of race is, by definition, racist. We should be considering solutions that address the shared areas of success/failure, but instead we like to waste our time feeling good instead of acting out goodness.

[freebeard]

Wokeness is an oxymoron

I learned something. An oxymoron can be a single word.

I'm very tired of racists enacting racism in the US.

Racisms is a component of the larger Frankfurt School Marxists' divisive strategy.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I'm very tired of racists enacting racism in the US. They are few, but they are noisy and influential.

Unfortunately, it's not just there. Even in countries such as Brazil, where people of different races tend to get along well, nowadays I see identitarian BS more often.

We should be solving problems for people, but instead we're falling into a racist trap and wasting everyone's time to solve no problems for anybody (actually creating more problems). There are commonalities of every measure of success (and failure) that applies across all races. Any attempt to address a failure at the level of race is, by definition, racist. We should be considering solutions that address the shared areas of success/failure, but instead we like to waste our time feeling good instead of acting out goodness.

Unfortunately, many folks nowadays reject common-sense, and embrace some random woke/SJW bandwagon to pretend they "care" for any shallow "cause". And it goes beyond racial and other identitarian labels. Just look at the way some random self-proclaimed "environmentalists" exagerate claims about eventual downsides of some energy policy, in order to promote the EV agenda among other techs which are far from being the one-size-fits-all solution they point it out as if it was.