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Old 07-31-2018, 08:54 PM   #501 (permalink)
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Funny how everyone clutches their pearls over the Model 3's panel gaps, when exclusive and expensive cars like the first- and second-gen Viper had huge and inconsistent gaps and no one batted an eye, or seems to care today on the used market.

For myself, I chalk it up to--that's what you get with a hand-built car.

Not that I personally give a crap, BUT I see the following as justification of anger.

1) different era. The 90’s were a long time ago
2) nobody gave a crap if the Viper was going to be reliable, manageable or even any good. It was specifically built the be raw and a challenge to handle.
3) in the USA even the lowest quality cars have impressive panel gap today.
4) perhaps the most hyped (not by the manufacturer, but by fans) car of the last 20 years and as such expectations are sky high.
5) all of the exclusive cars I can think of currently in production are 200K $+ and have exquisite build quality, there’s some tendency to judge this highly in demand car by the same standard.

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Old 07-31-2018, 09:34 PM   #502 (permalink)
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Beautiful! I love when the guy kicks the grille panel to align it, and then has to yank it backward because he kicked too hard!
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It's ok guys, Elon hired an expert...
The Trabant may easily be the worst postwar car. Alignment issues is nothing but a justification to give it a few good kicks.

It must not have been fun to work in a Trabant factory for sure. The marimba does not help either.
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Interesting tidbit from the conference call, summarized from a comment in this slashdot story:

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We all know the story of how Tesla's original plan for GA3 (General Assembly 3) was to have an automated conveyor belt system transport parts from the warehouse to each of the assembly workstations. Unfortunately, it just didn't work; they had to tear it out and do the transport manually. However, when general assembly became a bottleneck, they built a whole new line (GA4) in a Sprung structure, partly out of scrap - including said conveyor system, which now transports the cars down the line as they're assembled.

What we found out today, however, was that they had a problem with the conveyor system in the engineering phase: since it was designed for transporting parts, not whole cars, it wasn't up to the job. It could hold a car fine, but the motors weren't strong enough to move it reliably. Their solution? Let gravity give them a boost. The GA4 line is built at a 1% downward grade, which reduces stress on the motors to within their design tolerances.

Interestingly enough, the Sprung structure solved the warehouse transport problem on its own. Since it's a long, narrow structure surrounded by roads, trucks could just back up to each workstation and unload their boxes of parts right there - no centralized warehouse needed, and no redundant unloading / reloading work
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The only reason you need warehouse is to smooth erratic supply or store long lead / hard to procure parts.

The down side to the back trucks to conveyer is: zoo like unloading with QC & AP troubles like they have never seen....

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Old 08-12-2018, 12:00 AM   #507 (permalink)
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Tesla to go private...

Tesla short holders to sue Elon Musk for announcing he had finding to go private.

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Just read up on the Tesla, owners are complaining about sticky brakes.
Because they are used so few times, rust enters the disc and calipers; sometimes causing the brakes to fail.
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Just read up on the Tesla, owners are complaining about sticky brakes.
Because they are used so few times, rust enters the disc and calipers; sometimes causing the brakes to fail.
The friction brakes are used every time an electric vehicle comes to a stop. There is simply no regenerative braking at very low speeds, and friction brakes must come into play. I don't buy the brake dust theory.
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+1. There have been other issues with Tesla brakes though.

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