Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Off-Topic > The Lounge
Register Now
 Register Now
 


Closed Thread  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-25-2019, 04:33 PM   #7051 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 27,562
Thanks: 7,738
Thanked 8,554 Times in 7,041 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5
I tend to agree with everything above except:
They aren't fighting to keep us out; they are fighting to eradicate non-Muslims Wahabists.

According to the news China is genociding the Uyghurs. Half-caucasian Muslims. No trade deal for the Chinazis.

Don't know about Luisa-Marie Neubauer, but the interview with Greta and her father was interesting. She was mother-henning him, adjusting his microphone and feeding him statistics. It's an interesting dynamic.
Quote:
Messy, us? We like to believe we are doing well. Whether future history books agree remains to be seen.
I as well. There are slackers for sure, but all that solar power, EVs and climate research didn't come out of nowhere.

__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
 
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
aerohead (09-25-2019)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 09-25-2019, 04:39 PM   #7052 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,396

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Prius Plug-in - '12 Toyota Prius Plug-in
90 day: 57.64 mpg (US)

Mazda CX-5 - '17 Mazda CX-5 Touring
90 day: 26.68 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,192
Thanked 4,380 Times in 3,354 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
I missed the 'violence' part of the discussion.Where did that come in?
It's not necessarily a conscience or overt objective, but rather a consequence of causing division among people. You'll have to go back to my "us" vs "them" comment to follow along the thought train that leads to violence.

We tend to think violence erupts up out of nowhere, or very suddenly, when the reality is that we get there step by step, either as a consequence of planned action (WWII Nazis), or as a consequence of our inability to understand that division/disgust (pre Nazis) is the road toward violence.

Nazis didn't kill people, they killed "infestations". There's a process to converting people like me and you into infestations.

I'm not saying people like Soph and Greta are motivated toward violence; only that it's a possible outcome from having a character of division. As Peterson would say, lets not take the first step in the first place, even if it might not end up with people at eachothers throats.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
 
The Following User Says Thank You to redpoint5 For This Useful Post:
aerohead (09-25-2019)
Old 09-25-2019, 04:41 PM   #7053 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 15,861
Thanks: 23,922
Thanked 7,207 Times in 4,640 Posts
Greta

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedDevil View Post
Maybe I don't understand what's happening here or maybe I'm misunderstood, but just to be clear I endorse Greta Thunberg and her message.

I think many feel nausea at Greta's message as it is clear what it stands for. The young inherit the earth, and what an inheritance we leave for them; runaway global warming, pollution from the highest mountain tops to the deepest parts of the ocean, etc. That message is not welcome. Messy, us? We like to believe we are doing well. Whether future history books agree remains to be seen.
If she's not nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize there's something horribly wrong with humankind.She's a study in economy,content,continuity,coherence,conviction,an d summation.I must admit that I resonated with her emotional delivery.I feel better about being on the planet,knowing she's out there.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
 
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
litesong (09-25-2019), NeilBlanchard (09-25-2019), RedDevil (09-25-2019)
Old 09-25-2019, 04:48 PM   #7054 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Everett WA
Posts: 508
Thanks: 67
Thanked 164 Times in 124 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedDevil View Post
... just to be "clear" I endorse Greta Thunberg and her message.
If you sent this thread to Ms. Thunberg, she would cancel your endorsement of her. She has raised a vital, rallying cry to her peers, & struck & is striking ringing,dissonant chords of anger against us oldies.
 
The Following User Says Thank You to litesong For This Useful Post:
aerohead (09-25-2019)
Old 09-25-2019, 05:03 PM   #7055 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
sendler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY USA
Posts: 2,935

Honda CBR250R FI Single - '11 Honda CBR250R
90 day: 105.14 mpg (US)

2001 Honda Insight stick - '01 Honda Insight manual
90 day: 60.68 mpg (US)

2009 Honda Fit auto - '09 Honda Fit Auto
90 day: 38.51 mpg (US)

PCX153 - '13 Honda PCX150
90 day: 104.48 mpg (US)

2015 Yamaha R3 - '15 Yamaha R3
90 day: 80.94 mpg (US)

Ninja650 - '19 Kawasaki Ninja 650
90 day: 72.57 mpg (US)
Thanks: 326
Thanked 1,315 Times in 968 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by oil pan 4 View Post
[IMG]https
Unfortunately AOC hasn't studied climate science nearly as much and doesn't have nearly as many of the worlds top climate experts and now more recently, social scientists, on speed dial, as Greta.
 
The Following User Says Thank You to sendler For This Useful Post:
aerohead (09-25-2019)
Old 09-25-2019, 05:06 PM   #7056 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 15,861
Thanks: 23,922
Thanked 7,207 Times in 4,640 Posts
leads to

Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
It's not necessarily a conscience or overt objective, but rather a consequence of causing division among people. You'll have to go back to my "us" vs "them" comment to follow along the thought train that leads to violence.

We tend to think violence erupts up out of nowhere, or very suddenly, when the reality is that we get there step by step, either as a consequence of planned action (WWII Nazis), or as a consequence of our inability to understand that division/disgust (pre Nazis) is the road toward violence.

Nazis didn't kill people, they killed "infestations". There's a process to converting people like me and you into infestations.

I'm not saying people like Soph and Greta are motivated toward violence; only that it's a possible outcome from having a character of division. As Peterson would say, lets not take the first step in the first place, even if it might not end up with people at eachothers throats.
'Next door neighbors loaned me a book by Jimmy Carter.In the back of the book was a copy of the CAMP DAVID ACCORDS of 1978
Here are some of the talking points:
Framework for peace
Meetings
Agreements
Invitation to adherence
Peaceful settlement of conflict
Coexistence
Cooperation
Initiative
Proposals by leaders
This generation & future generations to be spared trajedies
Negotiations
Provisions & principles
Respect
Rights
Reconciliation
Promoting economic development
Maintain stability
Assuring security
Monitoring
Objectives
Procedure
Representatives-delegations-inhabitants
Resolution
Orderly transfer-transition
Timetable
Arrangements
Responsibilities
Withdrawal
Joint participation
Final status
Committees
Resolve
Solution
Legitimate right
Just requirements
Participation in determinations
Joint agreement
Vote by elected representatives
Joint participation
Establishment of agreed procedures
Implementation
Peaceful settlement of disputes
Good faith negotiating
Obligations
Full recognition and normalization of relations
Protection under due process of law
Exploration of economic development potentials/possibilities as a common goal
Mutual settlement of all claims financial
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Not a bad starting place.No violence.
My take on climate change is,that it's really not about the science at all,but rather the implications to investments should we act on the issue.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ruppert says it takes 30-years to transition to a new energy paradigm,and that's basically what the scientists are talking about.I don't see any structural nor technological impasse.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
 
Old 09-25-2019, 05:08 PM   #7057 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 27,562
Thanks: 7,738
Thanked 8,554 Times in 7,041 Posts
Shrieking for Vengeance: The #ClimateStrike
The Rageaholic — 224K subscribers
The road to "The Right Side of History" is paved with propaganda

You'd have to go find it, no link because RazörFist doesn't self-police his language but it does have the picture of G. Thunberg and both her parents in Antifa tee-shirts.

She a smart girl, hopefully she'll get up to speed on the science.
Quote:
Unfortunately AOC hasn't studied climate science nearly as much and doesn't have nearly as many of the worlds top climate experts and now more recently, social scientists, on speed dial, as Greta.
Unfortuneately for AOC, she totally lost her self-confidence when Saikat Chakrabarti was demoted to her reelection campaign.

Jimmy Carter is our next to the last good president.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
 
Old 09-25-2019, 05:09 PM   #7058 (permalink)
Master EcoWalker
 
RedDevil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,998

Red Devil - '11 Honda Insight Elegance
Team Honda
90 day: 47.72 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,711
Thanked 2,245 Times in 1,454 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by litesong View Post
If you sent this thread to Ms. Thunberg, she would cancel your endorsement of her. She has raised a vital, rallying cry to her peers, & struck & is striking ringing,dissonant chords of anger against us oldies.
I don't know what to make of that but it won't bother me. If you doubt clear: bye.
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.2 Gmeter or 0.13 Mmile.


For confirmation go to people just like you.
For education go to people unlike yourself.
 
Old 09-25-2019, 05:18 PM   #7059 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
sendler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY USA
Posts: 2,935

Honda CBR250R FI Single - '11 Honda CBR250R
90 day: 105.14 mpg (US)

2001 Honda Insight stick - '01 Honda Insight manual
90 day: 60.68 mpg (US)

2009 Honda Fit auto - '09 Honda Fit Auto
90 day: 38.51 mpg (US)

PCX153 - '13 Honda PCX150
90 day: 104.48 mpg (US)

2015 Yamaha R3 - '15 Yamaha R3
90 day: 80.94 mpg (US)

Ninja650 - '19 Kawasaki Ninja 650
90 day: 72.57 mpg (US)
Thanks: 326
Thanked 1,315 Times in 968 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by redneck View Post
Greta is a product of “her” environment...
When did they first meet or first make contact?
.
I have personal handlers and groomers. Buckminster Fuller, Donella Meadows, Herman Daly, Tom Murphy, David MacKay, Richard Heinberg, Nate Hagens, Daniel Christian Wahl, George Monbiot, Jason Hickel, a dozen more that I can't name off of the top of my head without looking through my books.
.
Great people stand on the shoulders of giants.
 
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to sendler For This Useful Post:
aerohead (09-25-2019), NeilBlanchard (09-25-2019)
Old 09-25-2019, 05:22 PM   #7060 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,396

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Prius Plug-in - '12 Toyota Prius Plug-in
90 day: 57.64 mpg (US)

Mazda CX-5 - '17 Mazda CX-5 Touring
90 day: 26.68 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,192
Thanked 4,380 Times in 3,354 Posts
Regarding an article sender linked to pages back, which I haven't gotten through yet, a main theme to the article was divesting from petroleum stocks. That struck me as odd, because a company isn't harmed by plummeting stocks; the investors are. The company already profited from the 1-time cash infusion from selling stocks. Once that's done, the risk is borne by the investors.

__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
 
The Following User Says Thank You to redpoint5 For This Useful Post:
aerohead (09-25-2019)
Closed Thread  Post New Thread


Tags
lies, opinion, reality, scam

Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com