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Old 09-21-2019, 01:48 PM   #6951 (permalink)
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Fortunately the Sun is forecast to be headed into a Solar Super Grand Minimum beyond anything ever seen since we have been studying it over 400 years. This will begin to give us a 25 year reprieve from some greenhouse warming effects and trough in 2032.
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We should be saving the rest of our coal for them to use to fend off the next Glacial period whenever that my be.
'guess you didn't catch the part about solar absolute total irradiance having very little to do with climate change.

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Old 09-21-2019, 02:07 PM   #6952 (permalink)
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Is the water rising or the land sinking...???






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Sea-level is rising due to land-borne snow and ice melt.As the ice melts,some areas experience tectonic rebound,rising,as the weight of the ice is lost.Some parts of North America are still rising from the time of the interglacial.Some geographic areas are experiencing subsidence,as ground water is pumped.
There would also be subduction areas along active tectonic plate boundaries,although this happens at extremely slow rates,with the exception of major earthquakes,as in Japan,where the entire coastline dropped 6-feet,ahead of the tsunami which took out the Fukushima Dai Ichi reactors.
Basically,as the amplification of feedbacks accelerate,we'll be looking at perhaps 66-feet of sea-level rise by 2100.The glaciologists are witnessing what would otherwise be referred to as runaway melting.And a blue ocean event is still forecast for Summer,2030,for the Arctic Ocean.
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Oil pan's got a good point, the vast majority of people who claim to believe in climate change aren't changing their lives in any meaningful way. What's the word for that? Starts with an h.

I've become a believer recently. It doesn't change my life much except eating less red meat.
When he calls all climate scientists liars and cult members,the general public shrugs their shoulders and carries on with business-as-usual.That's his default plan.It's working perfectly!
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Old 09-21-2019, 03:02 PM   #6954 (permalink)
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I bet almost every single one of them drove a gasoline powered car to get there and don't own any solar power equipment in the Kw range or have planted a tree with in the last year.
I am part owner of a large hydro plant and several nuclear plants as part of public utilities. Solar is less effective here in the snowy North East especially in Winter where I have seen logs showing 19 out of 25 days with near zero production. Wind turbine permitting is being streamlined and will see some big gains at the near shore area of Long Island in the next coming years. Too bad the US is totally behind the curve in wind turbine production and will be buying all foreign made hardware and installers.
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Is buying a new, 4000 pound electric vehicle really more beneficial to the planet when my 10 year old 40 mpgUS car still works fine? 2/3 of my annual mileage is on an 8 year old, 100 mpgUS motorcycle. That has only 360 pounds of materials in it.
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But I agree, there are some blind spots in the understanding of the climate strikers as to the trade offs between human well being/ energy/ economy/ ecology within the current system. Which is why I am working so hard to help people understand all of this. They don't understand that moving too quickly to leave carbon fuel in the ground before it's demand is reduced and replaced (never), would cause more immediate problems than the long term ones it solved.
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We have seen Greta's message changing from "do something" to "system change, not climate change". She has learned a great deal in one year since sitting alone in the rain with a cardboard sign. Much more than she would have if she had stayed in a regular school. The internet holds the sum knowledge of mankind in the palm of your hand.
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Old 09-21-2019, 03:38 PM   #6956 (permalink)
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Acirema Declares War on Climate Change

The Acireman Parliament,in a unanimous vote,has approved a war declaration against climate change.In a special session,Prime Minister Winston Tavernvale has described the present situation as akin to 'a 'Carbon-Curtain' descending upon the Empire''.
All ministers have convened roundtable working sessions to hammer out the details of their green new deal equivalent,which has been given an agreed-upon deadline of thirty days in order to expedite the launch of what they're referring to as a 'Warm-War.'
No one is certain about the specifics at this time,however there is a palpable sense of urgency among the ministers,as they anticipate the transition into a new petri dish.
The administer for the Bureau of Public Information,Reginald Pike Morgan,promises full media access to the ongoing proceedings.
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some new (to me) sources

I just finished reading the book,'Lies,Damned Lies,and Science,'by Ph.D.Sherry Seethaler,copyright 2009,FT PRESS,198-pages.
Seethaler shared a couple sources new to me.I looked them up online,and they go right to the horses mouth:
*Google Scholar
*EurekAlert!
The first is pretty obvious as to origin.
The second is by the American Association for the Advancement of Science,who publishes SCIENCE,one of the foremost,peer-reviewed,scientific journals.
Anyway,they're available to us with a few keystrokes.
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I don't think electric vehicles do jack to save the planet, but it seems the cult of climatology believes everyone else should be forced to drive one. Look at our own climate justice virtue signalers here. Only 1 of them drives an electric, but they all think everyone else should be buying them.
I saw a where small town in Maine is installing a bunch of solar panels in a pointless virtue signaling move. The panels are going in a small clearing with Forrest on 3 sides and the panels will be buried in snow for at least 4 months out of the year and barely see any sun for half the year.
Just because solar panels will only work for a few months out of the year and are never going to be economical up north isn't a reason not to buy them, it's all about virtue signaling.
You have to spend other people's money in the proper politically motivated way to show how much you fake care about the environment.
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Old 09-21-2019, 05:00 PM   #6959 (permalink)
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I don't think electric vehicles do jack to save the planet, but it seems the cult of climatology believes everyone else should be forced to drive one. Look at our own climate justice virtue signalers here. Only 1 of them drives an electric, but they all think everyone else should be buying them.
I saw a where small town in Maine is installing a bunch of solar panels in a pointless virtue signaling move. The panels are going in a small clearing with Forrest on 3 sides and the panels will be buried in snow for at least 4 months out of the year and barely see any sun for half the year.
Just because solar panels will only work for a few months out of the year and are never going to be economical up north isn't a reason not to buy them, it's all about virtue signaling.
You have to spend other people's money in the proper politically motivated way to show how much you fake care about the environment.
The original rationale for EVs was,
*No carbon dioxide at the vehicle.
*One 'tailpipe' at the power plant to deal with,worst-case.
*If powered by renewables,or nuclear,then essentially a 'zero-carbon' vehicles.This IS where climate change could be impacted.If we're going to maintain mobility AND handle global warming,this is all we have going for us.Nationwide charging infrastructure would be helpful.So far,Elon Musk is the only game out there.If EVs become an 'Apollo Mission',then we may see more widespread adoption and economies of scale.
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Maine will have to answer for themselves.If 'in season',they get sun, between 9:00 AM and 3:00 PM,it will fulfill their design requirement to carry some of the summertime load..Perhaps they're also going to do offshore wind,for pre-light and post-light power production.
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[It is] the Philippines, which is much poorer and smitten by typhoons, yet many times more happy than their neighbours in Japan.
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This is how it is. This is what kind of species we are: we are stupid, we are negligent, we are tardy. But on the other hand, we are adaptable, we are smart and even as things are falling apart, we are trying to stitch them together. But the most difficult thing is to calculate the net effect. Are we up or down? For all the analysis, we don’t know this.
I like these parts.

I got a ride in my son's new Silverado (it gets 43 instantaneous mpg with cylinder deactivation), so I can now distinguish $50K pickups from $40K pickups. I rode my bike to the laundamart and there was $140K of pickups in the parking lot and at least three people inside who can not afford their own washer and dryer.

That's the problem that needs to be fixed.
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the cult of climatology believes everyone else should be forced to drive one. Look at our own climate justice virtue signalers here. Only 1 of them drives an electric, but they all think everyone else should be buying them.
I don't care what they think (just why). I want an EV for the lower maintenance cost and not smelling raw gas when I go around a corner.
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VW (post Dieselgate) is stepping up, at least in Europe.

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