The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[All Darc]

If you talk about Fan coolers that use water evaporation to highjack hea,t you are correct. They are useful up to 70% air humidity.

But for fan alone it can be useful even in high temperatures and high humidity.
78 F (25,55 Celsius) it's not too much.

Originally Posted by aerohead

Around here they work up to a point,then with the relative humidity, it creates a heat index value which exceeds what is tolerable to humans. We can have dew points of 78-degrees F.Just sitting can cause exhaustion.

[oil pan 4]

14 thousand tons per second is nothing.
The glaciers retreated nearly a thousand miles in as little as a few hundred years at the end of the last ice age.
Man didn't cause that by lighting a few camp fires.

Plus all the beliver approved was to fix global warming barely amount to "fossil fuel extenders" and offer no actual solution. Redistribution of wealth is not a solution.

[freebeard]

Whose religion? Those who believe the climate is not affected by our activities are the cult ones.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=no%20u

I guess we're done here.

AllDarc — That limitation of aircrete sounds like an opportunity for a 3D printer (with an orifice measured in inches/cm).

A fan in the top of an hemisphere can maintain a difference with a closed loop.


http://pacificdomes.com/site/wp-cont...w-364x1024.jpg

Third one down. That's a dumbed-down illustration, it's actually a torodial flow that can exhibit Coriolis Effect. Up in the middle in Winter and down in the middle in Summer.


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Originally Posted by RedDevil

The European Geosciences Union is a non-profit organization of 15,000 scientists. Not just a guy, his brother and his father.

Who's the guy with a father and brother? Just trying to keep up.

Suspicious 0bservers has 350,000 citizen scientists gathering global data in real time and watching the satellites like GOES16.

[oil pan 4]

They're only non profit till they get funding to help tow the line.

Union of concerned fathers, brothers, nephews, cousins and former roommates.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

14 thousand tons per second is nothing.
The glaciers retreated nearly a thousand miles in as little as a few hundred years at the end of the last ice age.
Man didn't cause that by lighting a few camp fires.

Bright Insight

The Bright Insight Youtube channel did three episodes that are the most reasonable explanation of Atlantis' fate; then followed it up with the cause of that and the beginning of the Younger Dryas.

NASA recently discovered of a massive, 19-mile (31km) wide crater, found hidden underneath Greenland’s Hiawatha Glacier.

This furthers my argument that infrastructure should be hardened against heat, cold and high winds.

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

14 thousand tons per second is nothing.
The glaciers retreated nearly a thousand miles in as little as a few hundred years at the end of the last ice age.
Man didn't cause that by lighting a few camp fires.

Plus all the beliver approved was to fix global warming barely amount to "fossil fuel extenders" and offer no actual solution. Redistribution of wealth is not a solution.

A few hundred years?

How about 5 thousand years?

Around 15,000 years ago a new group of people crossed the Bering strait into North America. They spread quickly over the continent, killing most large animals in the process (just as already was under way in the rest of the world). Also, people started farming crops, clearing out fields by burning down vegetation.This had a global effect on wildlife and vegetation.

The Ice age was already coming to an end, but mankind did play a role.
Not campfires but man caused wildfires have sped up the changeover.
But not as fast as we do now. We cannot wait for 5000 years to start acting.

Redistribution of wealth is not a solution... So there is no problem? Or do you have a better solution?

We must primarily stop the waste, the needless spillage. Insulate homes. Improve on transport economy, improve on logistics, improve on the efficiency of industrial processes.

At this point the cost of energy is part of the equation while developing industrial processes. To reduce emissions the cost of energy needs to rise. For instance, techniques like HIsarna for the iron industry would quickly become commonplace if energy gets more expensive.

Taxation is but one way to get there. But if you have a better way of cutting down the spillage, go tell.

[All Darc]

Interesting idea, but I believe it's not dense enough for 3D printing, and any wind would blown it away.

I supose the casting of larger blocks, and using some bamboo reinforcment skeleton, since aircrete it's very brittle, could make building much faster.
I supose something similar to a soccer ball configuration of geometric figures (that compose the ball) would be perfect.









But the blocks would be in curved way, to allow the finish dome be smooth, and not like flat triangles. Like the figure in the right, and not like the figure in the lefth :

Originally Posted by freebeard

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=no%20u

I guess we're done here.

AllDarc — That limitation of aircrete sounds like an opportunity for a 3D printer (with an orifice measured in inches/cm).

A fan in the top of an hemisphere can maintain a difference with a closed loop.


http://pacificdomes.com/site/wp-cont...w-364x1024.jpg

Third one down. That's a dumbed-down illustration, it's actually a torodial flow that can exhibit Coriolis Effect. Up in the middle in Winter and down in the middle in Summer.


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Who's the guy with a father and brother? Just trying to keep up.

Suspicious 0bservers has 350,000 citizen scientists gathering global data in real time and watching the satellites like GOES16.

[oil pan 4]

Wasn't talking about Greenland. I was talking about the glaciers that vanished over most of north America, Europe and Asia in as little as a few generations.

I already said that CO2 punishment is stupid.
You get penalized driving a gasoline car or a coal powered electric car. There is no incentive to change.
Replace coal fired power plants with nuclear, that is the only meaningful, long lasting solution. Or you end up like Germany, you tax and tax and spend on green power but eventually you give up and just start building coal fired plants again.
Offer people clean, cheap, price stable nuclear power as a safe haven to fossil fuel price madness.

[RedDevil]

BS.
There were hardly any glaciers over Asia. So they could not vanish in as little as 250 generations.
They weren't there, nor in Alaska. Why? I don't know. I bet sea currents and wind direction made Asia and Alaska relatively temperate then, just like it does now for Europe.


I'm not opposed to nuclear. We really need everything we got to reduce carbon emissions: Solar, wind, geothermal, nuclear, biostuff, tide and hydro combined on the generating side, and strict regulation to prevent wasting energy on the consuming side.

And we won't be able to do that within 15 years or so.
Which may be on the late side climate wise.

[oil pan 4]

In 2006 they said we only had 5 or 10 years "before it was too late".
But before that in the 1970s we had to do something by 1980 to fix global cooling or it would be too late.