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Old 05-18-2019, 12:45 PM   #5861 (permalink)
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The Charlemagne Event was 10x the Carrington Event.

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The conjecture is that the electromagnetic radiation is ultraviolet rather than infrared. The test would be a pinhole mask that only exposes the interior of a sunspot.
Radio emission dovetails to a specific Kelvin temperature.'Reading' the radio frequency of the sunspot should reveal its actual temperature,and from that,where it would lie along the rest of the electromagnetic spectrum.
In 1945,Scott and Pawsey,at the Radiophysics Laboratory,Australia,discovered radio emission from the Sun,at 15-million degrees K.Today's Parker Probe may be able to parse out some of these details.It will be as close as 4-million miles from the Sun.

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Old 05-18-2019, 01:14 PM   #5862 (permalink)
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Each prediction is based upon a set of assumptions. it is an extrapolation of known data and perceived trends. Natural systems tend to self regulate. People tend to make substitutions when one product no longer is viable. I have lived on the 'eve of destruction' my whole life. Without a definite Pareto diagram of the factors influencing weather and climate or per-capital resource production there is little certainty of making precise predictions more than five years into the future. We can take prudent steps to minimize waste heat and conserve farm and forest land. I suspect these are root issues.
My impression from some of the climate scientists,is that 'prudent' has worked out for us,since 1957.With the best,high-resolution numerical models,there's a high probability that we're already into,non-linear,amplifying,self-reinforcing feedback loops,which will push us beyond irreversible thresholds, unless we not only cease to emit anthropogenic greenhouse gases,but remove some of the gases which are already in the atmosphere.
Today,Australia is electing a new prime minister.The number-one item on their political agenda is climate change.We might want to follow their lead.
Precise prediction has been the enemy of the good.Shareholders for Oxidation have taken on the same complexion as Sacklers for Oxycontin.
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Rand Corporation and climate change

I went to the Rand Corporation,Santa Monica,California website,and to their section on climate change.
There is an essay:Resilience and Adaptation Strategies Can Address the Impacts of Climate Change.
Within the essay they provide links to specific topics, related reports and other materials.
Over their history,the personnel of Rand Corporation have been considered some of the smartest people in the room.
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Here's material US taxpayers paid for.Many reports.Links,Special Reports.
Real meat and potatoes!
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World investment in wind and solar has stalled due to poor financial return on investment. I guess what is needed is to start phasing in a world carbon tax right when it comes out of the ground. Which creates the fund for mitigation/ relocation and support of basic living needs.
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"At the end of the day investors arenít just going to put their money on a good story, their main objective is to make money from these investments. A look at the renewable energy sector fundamentals analysis shows that the total rating of all listed renewable energy companies fundamentals is just 3.9 out of 10, a rating that signals the renewable energy sector has very poor fundamentals."
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Old 05-18-2019, 05:50 PM   #5866 (permalink)
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I guess what is needed is to start phasing in a world carbon tax right when it comes out of the ground. Which creates the fund for mitigation/ relocation and support of basic living needs.
Who handles the float?
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World investment in wind and solar has stalled due to ....
It hasn't stalled, it is just growing at the same rate for a short while instead of exponentially. But as oil prices got way up this won't remain long like this.
Suppose now Iran and the US manage to get into a totally avoidable war. Oil prices will go boom and renewable projects get so profitable everyone will be scrambling to jump on.
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:40 PM   #5868 (permalink)
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World investment in wind and solar has stalled due to poor financial return on investment. I guess what is needed is to start phasing in a world carbon tax right when it comes out of the ground. Which creates the fund for mitigation/ relocation and support of basic living needs.
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"At the end of the day investors arenít just going to put their money on a good story, their main objective is to make money from these investments. A look at the renewable energy sector fundamentals analysis shows that the total rating of all listed renewable energy companies fundamentals is just 3.9 out of 10, a rating that signals the renewable energy sector has very poor fundamentals."
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Growth in Renewables has Stalled. Investment is Falling. But Why? Ė Trade Unions for Energy Democracy
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Successful carbon capture, sequestration,and atmospheric CO2 removal would be the most painless solution,but if added to 'hidden' costs,I don't know how they could look economically attractive at all.
And I don't know by what metrics,the ratings are established.If its someone like Moody's Investment Services,they could be pulling numbers out of their backside.
Last night on CBS,they reported on a new report on climate; saying that we're now looking at 9F increase by 2100.That will be 18F at the poles.If so,it's game over.
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I GOOGLED for it and landed on a Brookings Institution, Tax Policy Center,website for 'Distributional Effects of a Carbon Tax.'
There's a short synopsis,with links to other publications.It's from 2018,so pretty current.
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