The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by Grant-53

Each prediction is based upon a set of assumptions. it is an extrapolation of known data and perceived trends. Natural systems tend to self regulate. People tend to make substitutions when one product no longer is viable. I have lived on the 'eve of destruction' my whole life. Without a definite Pareto diagram of the factors influencing weather and climate or per-capital resource production there is little certainty of making precise predictions more than five years into the future. We can take prudent steps to minimize waste heat and conserve farm and forest land. I suspect these are root issues.

My impression from some of the climate scientists,is that 'prudent' has worked out for us,since 1957.With the best,high-resolution numerical models,there's a high probability that we're already into,non-linear,amplifying,self-reinforcing feedback loops,which will push us beyond irreversible thresholds, unless we not only cease to emit anthropogenic greenhouse gases,but remove some of the gases which are already in the atmosphere.
Today,Australia is electing a new prime minister.The number-one item on their political agenda is climate change.We might want to follow their lead.
Precise prediction has been the enemy of the good.Shareholders for Oxidation have taken on the same complexion as Sacklers for Oxycontin.

[aerohead]

I went to the Rand Corporation,Santa Monica,California website,and to their section on climate change.
There is an essay:Resilience and Adaptation Strategies Can Address the Impacts of Climate Change.
Within the essay they provide links to specific topics, related reports and other materials.
Over their history,the personnel of Rand Corporation have been considered some of the smartest people in the room.

[aerohead]

Here's material US taxpayers paid for.Many reports.Links,Special Reports.
Real meat and potatoes!

[sendler]

World investment in wind and solar has stalled due to poor financial return on investment. I guess what is needed is to start phasing in a world carbon tax right when it comes out of the ground. Which creates the fund for mitigation/ relocation and support of basic living needs.
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"At the end of the day investors aren’t just going to put their money on a good story, their main objective is to make money from these investments. A look at the renewable energy sector fundamentals analysis shows that the total rating of all listed renewable energy companies fundamentals is just 3.9 out of 10, a rating that signals the renewable energy sector has very poor fundamentals."
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Growth in Renewables has Stalled. Investment is Falling. But Why? – Trade Unions for Energy Democracy
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[freebeard]

I guess what is needed is to start phasing in a world carbon tax right when it comes out of the ground. Which creates the fund for mitigation/ relocation and support of basic living needs.

Who handles the float?

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by sendler

World investment in wind and solar has stalled due to ....

It hasn't stalled, it is just growing at the same rate for a short while instead of exponentially. But as oil prices got way up this won't remain long like this.
Suppose now Iran and the US manage to get into a totally avoidable war. Oil prices will go boom and renewable projects get so profitable everyone will be scrambling to jump on.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by sendler

World investment in wind and solar has stalled due to poor financial return on investment. I guess what is needed is to start phasing in a world carbon tax right when it comes out of the ground. Which creates the fund for mitigation/ relocation and support of basic living needs.
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"At the end of the day investors aren’t just going to put their money on a good story, their main objective is to make money from these investments. A look at the renewable energy sector fundamentals analysis shows that the total rating of all listed renewable energy companies fundamentals is just 3.9 out of 10, a rating that signals the renewable energy sector has very poor fundamentals."
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Growth in Renewables has Stalled. Investment is Falling. But Why? – Trade Unions for Energy Democracy
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Successful carbon capture, sequestration,and atmospheric CO2 removal would be the most painless solution,but if added to 'hidden' costs,I don't know how they could look economically attractive at all.
And I don't know by what metrics,the ratings are established.If its someone like Moody's Investment Services,they could be pulling numbers out of their backside.
Last night on CBS,they reported on a new report on climate; saying that we're now looking at 9F increase by 2100.That will be 18F at the poles.If so,it's game over.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Who handles the float?

I GOOGLED for it and landed on a Brookings Institution, Tax Policy Center,website for 'Distributional Effects of a Carbon Tax.'
There's a short synopsis,with links to other publications.It's from 2018,so pretty current.

[NeilBlanchard]

Massive flooding in Oklahoma:

Tornadoes And Heavy Rain Devastate Midwest And Great Plains

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard

Massive flooding in Oklahoma:

Tornadoes And Heavy Rain Devastate Midwest And Great Plains

I think they said this is only the second time in history that,NOAA's Severe Weather Prediction Center issued an 'Extreme Warning'.
I've measure 7.8-inches rain so far for May.It hasn't ever been dry in North Texas since new years.I can hardly get anything done outside before another storm comes.
Homes,businesses,farms,roads,crops flooded.Farmers can't get in their fields.
Interesting.
Last night,exactly at the end of the CBS New broadcast,they mentioned a new report predicting a 9-degree F increase in global mean average surface temp by 2100.Get those water skis ready for the North Pole!